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David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

Posted on: September 2, 2011 8:03 pm
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Posted by Tom Fornelli

Like most days as of late, Friday hasn't been the best day for the Big 12. Earlier in the day Missouri head coach Gary Pinkel said what many people are thinking by placing the blame for the conference's problems on commissioner Dan Beebe, and on Friday evening Oklahoma president David Boren didn't do much to douse the fire of Oklahoma possibly leaving the Big 12 for another conference.

Boren talked to The Oklahoman's Travis Haney, and basically said that he has no idea what the future of the Big 12 or Oklahoma holds.

“It’s too early yet to know exactly what the outcome will be," said Boren. "Our main responsibility will be protecting the interest of the University of Oklahoma, do what’s in the best long-term interest of the university and our athletics department and the fans. That’s what we’ll attempt to do to. Beyond that, while we haven’t been saying much publicly – frankly, on purpose, because we’re at the sensitive point of discussions among schools. Too much said in public reduces success of our goals rather than enhances it.

“We have to study the best options for ourselves and not lock ourselves into a course of action until we know what’s best for the university. We’re heavily involved. I don’t know how long it will be before clarity comes to us. My experience is that, in these kinds of things, it might be a matter of 72 hours, it might be a matter of two weeks. I don’t really think this is something that’s going to linger on beyond two or three weeks, from the outside. This has been consuming my life the last few days. It’s a fascinating challenge. We’re just in the search for what’s best for the university."

Doren also went on to say that other conferences are interested in Oklahoma, though he did not say anything about Oklahoma being contacted by anyone. He also said that Oklahoma is exploring all its options.

“At this point in time, I’ll be very honest with you in saying I do not know with certainty, or perhaps even can’t hazard a totally intelligent guess as to what our final decision will be. But we are carefully looking over all the options."

It's been speculated in recent days that one of those options would be the Pac-12 as it is considering becoming the Pac-16 by adding Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech. Of course, the SEC has been rumored to be interested in Oklahoma before as well, though I'm not sure the Sooners would make that move without Oklahoma State. Which means the SEC would then have to add a 16th school.

Of course, as Doren said, nobody can be sure what's going to happen in the Big 12 over the coming days, weeks and months. But it's somewhat hard to deny that dark clouds seem to be forming overhead. 
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Since: Nov 25, 2010
Posted on: September 5, 2011 11:15 pm
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

We have really made strides to clean up our athletics and I have no desire to move backward.  Plus their academics (save Florida) are abismal.
I would assume that you in your much higher academically gifted prose probably meant to say "abysmal". It's derivation has something to do with the depths of an abyss--not to be confused with an abis.

That said, with all due respect to the not so snobbish folks in Norman which I consider a fine school, the US News and World Report is quite well known for its list of the "best" universities in the United States and I found 4 or 5 SEC schools in the top 100: Vanderbilt (top 20 as a matter of note) Florida, Alabama, Auburn, possibly another I'm forgetting right about now. I had to go to 111 to find Oklahoma! Now before you tell me how far down other schools may or may not be--it's a moot point. I think given the right frame of mind, and a concerted effort that a person can become academically successful at just about any of the major universities, be it Oklahoma, Vandy, LSU, Texas, or Whatsamatta U. They're all fine schools and the kind of intellectual snobbery you chose to give vent to is rather uncalled for. Yes, you are certainly entitled to your opinion--however ill-informed; but I, in my turn can and will refute what I consider to be ridiculous generalization. You may not want to have anything to do with the SEC "culture" (if so you're at the very least missing out on some of the best cooking in the world--but to each his or her own), but frankly I would welcome Oklahoma into the SEC--(though I doubt it will happen--in all likelihood it'll be the Pac 16). It would regenerate that Oklahoma/Arkansas rivalry and if both the Sooners and the Cowboys came into the SEC, we'd have a regular reunion of four of the old SWC teams (Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas) right back mixing it up with their old rivalries--but I digress and dwell on the unlikely in the extreme.

I guess my response was strictly prompted by the colossal hubris of someone who displays a lot of ignorance on the matter (and in their spelling) casting all sorts of aspersions in the direction of the SEC. Understand this, I am no SEC "homer"--I pull for MY team! But when I sense a rather stereotyped generalized attack against my section of the country using a football conference as the conduit--I will defend our region as much as any West coaster would defend that one were someone to make a generalization about their god-awful "culture" and abismal [sic] academics. And no, I don't need you to aprise me of the excellent record of most Pac 12 Schools--*most* (same could be said for most Big 10 schools--*most*)... but to suggest the SEC is "abysmal" isn't only unfair--it's flat out wrong! If you really want academia I suggest you try joining the Ivy League--virtually all in the top 20--but I guess you'd shy away from that "culture" as well. 






Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2011 8:52 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

His name Boren not Doren please correct your article. And the Pac-16 sounds like the best solution.



Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2011 7:28 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

The Pac 12 would be great for Oklahoma  - best media markets  but Oklahoma  isn't Pac 12 material academically. Cal and Stanford would be a good influence in that area.



Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2011 4:20 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

This would wrap up all of the major midwest markets, and set the Big Ten up nicely to add a couple of teams in the east and create a 20-team mega league
A BAD IDEA!!!
  A 20 team "mega league"...WOW if you have 2 10 team "divisions", what is the difference between your mega league and a present day conference?
 Each team can only schedule 9 league games and guess what? Those games should be in the division so you can have a "championship game" for mega $$$'s.
  Cross divisional games? Non-exitstant, except for maybe 1 per year.
  Why?
 The lower teams will have to schedule the Mid. Tenn St. and Arkansas St. to try to assure bowl eligiblity, therefore eliminating "non-divisional conference" games.

A 16 team "Super-Conference" is going to be bad enough.
A 20 team "Mega-Conference" would destroy major college football.




Since: Aug 16, 2011
Posted on: September 5, 2011 12:52 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

IF OKLAHOMA WANTS THE BETTER CHANCE OF MINIMAL LOSSES IN A SEASON, THEY WILL GO TO THE PAC-12. TOO MANY TOUGH, SUFFOCATING DEFENSES IN THE SEC. NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO GO THROUGH SEC SCHEDULE WITH ONE OR ZERO LOSSES. IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE. BARELY. LOOK AT THE GAME SCORES OF THE UNBEATEN SEASONS. AT LEAST 2 OR 3 TIMES IN THOSE SEASONS, THE WINNER WAS PUSHED TO THE BRINK BEFORE ESCAPING. EVERY YEAR, THERE IS AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE GOOD TEAMS IN THE SEC. PROBLEM IS, THERE IS ALSO 2 OR 3 JUGGERNAUTS. YOU THINK VANDERBILT WOULD HAVE THE SAME SO-SO SEASONS EVERY YEAR IF THEY PLAYED IN ANOTHER CONFERENCE?!! EVERYONE WANTS TO WIN THE BCS CHAMPIONSHIP. SEC SCHOOLS ALWAYS KNOCK OFF GREAT TEAMS CHANCES IN SEC CONFERENCE PLAY. ON ANY WEEK, AN AVERAGE VANDERBILT CAN RISE UP AND PLAY STIFLING DEFENSE LIKE ALABAMA OR LSU FOR AN UPSET. THIS IS TRUE WITH ALL THE TEAMS. YOU SHOW UP WITH A LAZY A-GAME, AND YOUR TEAM IS GOING DOWN WITH A L ON THEIR RECORD. YOU USUALLY DO NOT SEE THIS IN MOST CONFERENCES FROM EACH TEAM. SEC WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE ADDED PRESTIGE OF HAVING OU OR TEXAS ADDED TO THEIR CONFERENCE. PROBLEM IS, THOSE TEAMS WANT THE EASIEST CHANCE AT A TITLE SHOT. CANNOT BLAME THEM FOR THAT. BUT THE OLD OU AND TEXAS FROM THE 70'S WOULD HAVE JUMPED AT THE CHALLENGE!! TEAMS PLAYED FOR PRIDE AND TRADITION BACK THEN. NOT FOR JUST GETTING A BCS BOWL GAME. THIS IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHY THERE SHOULD BE A 10 GAME SCHEDULE FOR EVERY TEAM. THEN HAVE THREE ROUNDS OF PLAYOFFS. LOSER OUT OF TOURNEY LIKE BASKETBALL. ONE AND DONE IF YOU LOSE. THE TWO TEAMS LEFT STANDING PLAY FOR A TRUE TITLE. I DO NOT HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE EVENTUAL NCAA CHAMPS IN OTHER SPORTS. WHY? BECAUSE THE TRULY GOOD TEAMS HAVE THE SAME SHOT AS THE GREAT TEAMS TO WIN. THEN OU AND OTHER TEAMS WOULD NOT CARE IF THEY WERE IN A BCS CONFERENCE OR NOT.



Since: Sep 3, 2011
Posted on: September 3, 2011 3:40 pm
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

Oops, I obviously mixed up East and West, but you get the idea. Laughing



Since: Sep 3, 2011
Posted on: September 3, 2011 3:24 pm
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

If I had my druthers, I'd really like to see us head to the Big 10 with a few other old Big 8 members.  I suspect that the Big 10 wants no part of us and perhaps Ok. State because of academics but I'm sure they are also considering the possibility that other conferences snatch up the quality atheletic programs before they act, leaving them with leftover scraps. The Big 10 (16) could look like this:

East:
OU
Ok. State
Missouri
Kansas
Nebraska
Texas
Iowa
Minnesota

West:
Michigan
Michigan State
Ohio State
Illinois
Northwestern
Wisconsin
Penn State
Indiana
My second choice would be the Pac XX.  My third choice would be a more stable Big 12, but Missouri has already shown that they are just waiting for the prettier girl to come along and then they'll break up with us on the spot.  My absolute last choice would be SEC.  I want no part of their personal culture or their football culture.  We have really made strides to clean up our athletics and I have no desire to move backward.  Plus their academics (save Florida) are abismal.



Since: Aug 30, 2008
Posted on: September 3, 2011 2:05 pm
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

Beebe should get into politics.  No one else except could screw things up this badly and keep their job except a weatherman or a politician.  My guess is he'll end up in Texas politics somewhere (oh wait he already has been!!!)  

Couldn't happen to a better candidate (errr a$$hole!)      GBR!!!



Since: Sep 3, 2011
Posted on: September 3, 2011 1:45 pm
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

Well, this is an interesting comment.  I've been an OU fan since 1972 and graduated in 1989.  In the old Big 8 days (even further back tbh), we always had two rivalry games - Texas and Nebraska.  They were perfectly placed on the schedule with OU/TX occuring the second saturday in October and then the Big 8 (championship ;)) occuring over Thanksgiving break.  The two rivalries differed with regard to the nature of the fans.  The OU/TX rivalry has always been one of hate and the OU/NE rivalry has always been one of respect.

To say that we weren't rivals with Nebraska is just incorrect.



Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: September 3, 2011 12:46 pm
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

And @

I think it's a killer lineup. Tex/Ok/Neb in one division; Michigan/Penn State/OSu in the other... it'd be incredible.  I just don't think it shakes out that way.


 


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