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David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

Posted on: September 2, 2011 8:03 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

Like most days as of late, Friday hasn't been the best day for the Big 12. Earlier in the day Missouri head coach Gary Pinkel said what many people are thinking by placing the blame for the conference's problems on commissioner Dan Beebe, and on Friday evening Oklahoma president David Boren didn't do much to douse the fire of Oklahoma possibly leaving the Big 12 for another conference.

Boren talked to The Oklahoman's Travis Haney, and basically said that he has no idea what the future of the Big 12 or Oklahoma holds.

“It’s too early yet to know exactly what the outcome will be," said Boren. "Our main responsibility will be protecting the interest of the University of Oklahoma, do what’s in the best long-term interest of the university and our athletics department and the fans. That’s what we’ll attempt to do to. Beyond that, while we haven’t been saying much publicly – frankly, on purpose, because we’re at the sensitive point of discussions among schools. Too much said in public reduces success of our goals rather than enhances it.

“We have to study the best options for ourselves and not lock ourselves into a course of action until we know what’s best for the university. We’re heavily involved. I don’t know how long it will be before clarity comes to us. My experience is that, in these kinds of things, it might be a matter of 72 hours, it might be a matter of two weeks. I don’t really think this is something that’s going to linger on beyond two or three weeks, from the outside. This has been consuming my life the last few days. It’s a fascinating challenge. We’re just in the search for what’s best for the university."

Doren also went on to say that other conferences are interested in Oklahoma, though he did not say anything about Oklahoma being contacted by anyone. He also said that Oklahoma is exploring all its options.

“At this point in time, I’ll be very honest with you in saying I do not know with certainty, or perhaps even can’t hazard a totally intelligent guess as to what our final decision will be. But we are carefully looking over all the options."

It's been speculated in recent days that one of those options would be the Pac-12 as it is considering becoming the Pac-16 by adding Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech. Of course, the SEC has been rumored to be interested in Oklahoma before as well, though I'm not sure the Sooners would make that move without Oklahoma State. Which means the SEC would then have to add a 16th school.

Of course, as Doren said, nobody can be sure what's going to happen in the Big 12 over the coming days, weeks and months. But it's somewhat hard to deny that dark clouds seem to be forming overhead. 
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Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: September 3, 2011 12:40 pm
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

Look---the truth is:

Texas would be accepted ANYWHERE.  Anytime.  By any conference.  They are an AAU school and they are a National Brand. Except--there's the Longhorn network issue.  I believe they eventually go independent, because they want to keep the Longhorn network.  The SEC network (CBS) and The Big 10 (B10 Network) setups don't allow for a member institituion school to have it's own network within the larger framework of things. 

Oklahoma, by itself---would be taken anywhere.  But they want to take Ok State with them.  A complication--and added complications are aways what causes deals to go awry.  Just like the Longhorn network.  And No--Oklahoma is not some professor screaming out lessons in a cornfield.  Yet it is not an AAU member. (I noted nebraska is not one now either, yet they were when they were invited to join the Big 10.)  The Big 10 President's place great value on academic branding. They would fir perfectly in the PAC 12 with Ok State, or even if they want to try and create a Upgraded MWC with Boise State or some other hodgepodge of teams.  Best bet is still the PAC 12.

I'm not dissing the PAC 12.  The only statement I made was that Oklahoma would immediately shoot up to the top with as little challenge as possible.  This is NOT true of the Big 10 or the SEC;  The PAC 10 is USC.... Oregon and Stanford have come on in the past years--- but as far as Football "Brands"  the PAC 12 is USC; and a little bit of UCLA historically.  Add points for Phil Knights support of Oregon.   One solid brand and two smaller ones. 

The Big 10 Brands?  Michigan. OSU. Penn State. and now--Nebraska--- four top brands.  Lesser brands?  Wisconsin/MI State/Iowa--choose one. lol

The SEC Brands?  Alabama. LSU. Tennesee.  Georgia. Florida.  Lesser Brands?  Auburn/Arkansas. Choose one. If someone wants to make an argument about GA not being a National Brand, I'll listen--yet i think they are.  5 Top brands and a smaller one.

The ACC  Brands?  Florida State.  Miami.  Virginia Tech.  Lesser Brand? Georgia Tech.  3 Top Brands and 1 lesser one. 

The point is this:  I agree that eventiually, there will be five 16 team superconferences ...and in the end--OK will be in the PAc 12!




Since: Dec 6, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2011 12:31 pm
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

The Big Ten needs to reach out to Oklahoma at this point. I know that Oklahoma may not have the academic standards of other Big Ten schools, but Oklahoma has one of the premeir athletic programs in the nation athe Bind could provide a lot of additional exposure to the conference. This really is the best thing that could have happen to the Big Ten if they want to land Texas because if they can poach Oklahoma, Kansas, and Missouri and basically destroy the Big 12, Texas will have to choose a new conference and because of their interest in remaining with OU, the Big Ten would likely jump to the top of the list without giving Texas any real power. This would wrap up all of the major midwest markets, and set the Big Ten up nicely to add a couple of teams in the east and create a 20-team mega league. I would say that out east Maryland and Boston College are probably the best two to target, and from that point if Notre Dame still refuses to join, UConn, Rutgers, Syracuse, Pitt, Virginia Tech, and even Georgia Tech would be options. If conference realignment shaped up this way, this is how the Big Ten may look:

Big Ten West
Texas
Oklahoma
Kansas
Missouri
Nebraska
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois
N'Western

Big Ten East
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue 
Ohio State
Penn State
Maryland
BC
UConn/Rutgers/Georgia Tech
Notre Dame/Syracuse/Pitt/Virginia Tech 

Traditionally, the two divisions would be well balance. Each team would play a round robin schedule in their division and would be able to schedule three games against other teams, including teams from the other division.  This would essentially make the Big Ten two conferences in one, with a conference championship game acting as a playoff. Oklahoma and Texas increase the football profile of the conference, while Missouri and Maryland provide a couple of solid football programs, but better basketball programs. BC brings in one of the two premeir catholic schools and is basically a ploy to draw Notre Dame in. Kansas provides an elite basketball program, as would UConn or Syracuse. GT would provide the Atlanta market and a dip into SEC country. Pitt is a good all around school, but should be near the back of the pack for possible expansion candidates. Rutgers would be a bottom feeder, but would tap into the New York market. And VT has a very good football program which has been on the rise for the last two decades. Anyway, the formation of this conference all comes back to reaching out to OU right now, before they join another conference.


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Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: September 3, 2011 12:23 pm
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Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2011 11:45 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

There aren't as many good programs in the PAC 12 as there are in the SEC/Big 10
A B10 guy dissing the PAC, and comparing his conference to the SEC.. PLLLLEEEEEZZZZZ  The Big 10 is, and always has been a mediocre conference from top to bottom.  Play a 9 game conference schedule, and then maybe you can start comparing B10 to PAC.

When Ohio State is playing Ball State, or Michigan is losing to Western KY  in week 3, U$C is playing Wsashington, Cal is playing Oregon, UofA is playing Utah....

Nebraska will dominate the B10.




Since: Apr 10, 2010
Posted on: September 3, 2011 11:32 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

lets see as a sooner fan I can pay to fly to Pullman washington or I can drive to Fayetteville Ark  and Baton rouge la. the SEC gets my vote everyday of the week. We can play in the best conferance or we can be left coasters and stay up til 1:00 am to watch my team  Boomer Sooner!!!



Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: September 3, 2011 11:19 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

This has just reached the level of bizarre...  Try to imagine ANY OTHER major conference losing teams to other major conferences...  The SEC taking away Big 10 teams?  Never happen.  Pac 10 losing teams to the Big 10?  No way...  What the hell is going on down in Texas?  Beebe is a joke.  Other conferences are basically showing up at his door and snatching away all his furniture and jewels, while he stands there twiddling his thumbs, holding the door open for them.

NOT A SINGLE OTHER conference would bend over backwards to accomodate one school's wishes over the rest of the conference, like the Big 12 has done.  I'm actually a Longhorn fan, and have family just outside of Austin, but A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado-- they all had legitimate concerns over the BS that was going on in their previous conference (Oklahoma and A&M are both gone, it's only a matter of time).

Boo, Beebe... And Boo, Texas.

A great conference is done and over, but it will take years to clean up the rubbish they left behind.


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Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: September 3, 2011 10:33 am
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Since: Jan 3, 2010
Posted on: September 3, 2011 10:26 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

Granted OU isn't an AAU school, but we're not talking about a one-room school built in a cave. The football program is top 10 in financial worth. If OU brings along Texas (number 1 in financial worth), the Big 10 would have to give them an invite.  With Texas, OU, Nebraska, Ohio State, Penn State, Michicgan and Wisconsin, The Big 10 would rake in the dough.  The SEC would still be the best conference on the field, but the Big 10 financially would be humongous.
And, by the way, this story has been online since yesterday. Do you think CBS might correct the STUPID DOREN TYPO. Jeez, if you can't spell the main source of the story correctly, what the he11 else is wrong in the story? You do know that Boren was a U.S. Senator ...



Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2011 10:17 am
 

David Boren: Oklahoma 'looking over all options'

I couldn't be happier.  Dan "Barney Fife" Beebe will finally be employeed officailly by the LongHorn he has had his head pugged up for so long, now that he has destroyed this conference.

New Big 10 conference:

     West

Oklahoma
Oklahoma St.
Nebraska
Missouri
Iowa
Iowa St.
Kansas
Kansas St.
Minnesota

     East

Penn St
Ohio St.
Purdue
Indiana
Northwestern
Illinios
Michigan
Michigan St.
Wisconcin


"I'm not saying, I'm just saying"

Well since football is driving the conference realignment that makes Kansas, Kansas St, & Iowa St not that attractive.  The Big 10 would not come up with cool names like East and West.  And lastly the Big 10 will not have an alignment that won't have a possibility of Ohio State and Michigan in the championship game.


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Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: September 3, 2011 10:15 am
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