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Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Posted on: September 7, 2011 12:05 pm
Edited on: September 7, 2011 12:26 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

As we've told you about, the SEC voted to accept Texas A&M as the conference's thirteenth member on Tuesday night, but there still seems to be a roadblock or two in the Aggies way. The SEC originally received a notice from the Big 12 on September 2nd that said the SEC was free to accept Texas A&M as a member without fear of any legal repercussions from any other member of the Big 12. 

Something that no longer seems to be the case according to a release from the SEC on Wednesday which said that the conference has voted to accept Texas A&M, but won't officially bring the school into the fold until a certain member of the Big 12 agrees to accept the move.

"After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on September 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member," said Bernie Machen in the statement. "The presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC. We were notified yesterday afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action. The SEC has stated that to consider an institution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2, 2011."

Texas A&M President R. Bowen Loftin released a statement of his own saying pretty much the same thing on Wednesday morning.

“We are certainly pleased with the action taken last night by the presidents and chancellors of the Southeastern Conference to unanimously accept Texas A&M as the league’s 13th member. However, this acceptance is conditional, and we are disappointed in the threats made by one of the Big 12 member institutions to coerce Texas A&M into staying in Big 12 Conference. These actions go against the commitment that was made by this university and the Big 12 on Sept. 2. We are working diligently to resolve any and all issues as outlined by the SEC.”

While neither the SEC or Texas A&M will name this one Big 12 member, it's generally been acknowledged that the school is Baylor. The same Baylor that launched a bit of a grassroots campaign to keep the Big 12 together on Tuesday.

Can Baylor keep Texas A&M from leaving the Big 12? Probably not, but it's hard to blame the school for trying seeing as how the school doesn't know what the future will hold should the Big 12 completely dissolve.
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Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2011 2:25 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Secretly Kansas, Kansas State, & Iowa State are hoping that they are successful.  The Pac-10 come calling for Oklahoma, OSU, Texas and Texas Tech.  Missouri which spurned the Big Ten once probably ends up there so that leaves Baylor and the other three schools trying to figure out what they should do.

Football drives realignment and those schools just don't have as much to offer as the rest.  Kansas doesn't offer much of a television market and all the other conferences have a piece of Texas so they don't need Baylor.  Iowa is already on record saying they won't support Iowa State as a member.  So those schools are stuck in BCS limbo.



Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2011 1:57 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Just to clarify... Tech has been better than Baylor ever since the formation of the Big 12

After RGIII leaves this year... Baylor will slip back into mediocrity. (at best)



Since: Jul 15, 2011
Posted on: September 7, 2011 1:54 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Basically, what we have here is a Big 12 Conference with a big mouth, and nothing to back it up when they told the SEC that “…the SEC was free to accept Texas A&M as a member without fear of any legal repercussions from any other member of the Big 12.” Apparently, they don’t speak on behalf of the other teams, or at least Baylor, thus making both the Big 12 and their Commissioner irrelevant and worthless.  Now, if in fact “… the SEC was free to accept Texas A&M as a member without fear of any legal repercussions from any other member of the Big 12,” then the SEC and A&M should hook up, and let Baylor sue the Big 12, or whatever is left of the Big 12.



Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: September 7, 2011 1:53 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

The Aggies shamed themselves by trying to join the SEC and then pretending they were just considering a possibility of maybe one day going to some unnamed conference.  They were trying to cover their ass and avoid any law suit.  Well, everyone saw through their attempt at obfuscation.  The problem now is one Judge Ken Starr.  Yes, that Judge Starr who wasted millions of our taxpayer dollars on trying to bring down the Clinton administration.  The judge is the president of Baylor and one mean spirited SOB.  Count on him and his underlings fighting this beyond reason.  And although he has no case, A&M should go and begin their new life out from under the giant shadow of the LONGHORNS, that won't matter to Judge Starr.  He is an egomaniacal, Republican weasel.  I would love to hear the conversation between the Judge and the Governor.  The Judge is an educated man who operates like a demon possessed and won't let go of this as long as he can has fight in him.  Rick Perry is a silly man with a good education from A&M but evidently his degree is an excuse to stop learning.  They will both claim to have their universities best interest in mind.  Perry is fighting for his own glory and Starr is fighting for the life of Baylor.  At the end of the SWC Baylor had alum Governor Richards on their side.  The Big 12 wound up with Baylor instead of TCU or SMU.  Now the Bears are facing the prospect of being the wall flower at the party.  Southern Baptists have long been afraid of what dancing will lead to.  Now no one wants to invite them to dance.



Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2011 1:41 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Coach - the minute the NCAA gets involved and attempts to restrict conference realignment is the day that all of the BCS member institutions and the conferences themselves leave the NCAA and form another governoring body.  The NCAA knows this and that is why they are not meddling in this situation at all.  They know their existence is nothing without the conferences and BCS schools. 

As far as Baylor goes this is just a last ditch effort to keep the conference alive so they can reap the financial benefits.  If the Pac-12 won't take them, then no BCS conference will and they will lose big.  You are right that you cannot blame them for trying as it is 100% in their best interest, however, this is truly all for naught. 

A&M leaving was just a formallity and now you will see Texas, OU, Ok State and one other school leave for the Pac-12 and Mizzou and/or Kansas likely headed to the Big 10.  You kinda feel bad for those schools, but that is the nature of college sports these days. 



Since: May 7, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2011 1:39 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

You make up contract law as a side line?  So what you're saying is that if 11 teams want to leave, one can force them to stay forever?




Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: September 7, 2011 1:15 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

hoodwich, actually since it is reported that Texas, OU, OKST. and TT could be leaving to join the Pac-12, that frees up all other Big 12 members to persue legal action against any team leaving then "out in the cold". There is a legal and binding agreement made last year to keep the rest of the members as part of the Big 12, that makes it the right of each and every member to force the issue.




Since: Sep 7, 2011
Posted on: September 7, 2011 1:10 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

Maybe a 14-team conference with Texas A&M in the Western Division and the University of South Florida in the Eastern Division would work just about right?



Since: Feb 18, 2009
Posted on: September 7, 2011 1:02 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

If A&M is following delineated exit proceedures (likely, in light of the parallel to last year's exits) and is following Big 12 protocol, then Baylor may very well be opening itself up to claims for tortious interference with contract and deceptive or unfair business practices.  A bad faith suit or claim introduced to muck up two third parties' contract is itself very, very solid grounds for claims.  Not only A&M, but every school in the SEC, will have claims against Baylor.  I certainly doubt it gets that far, but practically this probably gets resolved quite quickly.  Would imagine each of A&M and the Pac-12 refugees will waive claims on the others' exit fees and will allow them to be distributed among the rest of the conference.



Since: Jun 12, 2008
Posted on: September 7, 2011 12:59 pm
 

Baylor stands between A&M and the SEC

The only reason Baylor was even in the Big 12 was politics.  When the SWC went away, Ann Richards the governor of Texas, made sure Baylor would be in the Big 12 or else on other Texas schools would be allowed to join.  I will bet TCU, SMU, and Houston are smiling today.


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