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Baylor to the Big East?

Posted on: September 8, 2011 12:44 pm
Edited on: September 8, 2011 12:45 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

Baylor has been one of the most vocal members of the Big 12 in recent days as the school does everything it can to keep the Big 12 together. It's a move that isn't difficult to understand because in all of the conference realignment talk, when it comes to the Big 12, Baylor is one of the few schools whom you don't hear mentioned as possibilities for other BCS conferences.

After all, in the Pac-16 scenario that keeps coming up, while Texas would want to bring Texas Tech west with them, you don't hear anything about the Longhorns being all that concerned about the Bears. As it turns out, however, Baylor may actually have a BCS contingency plan. According to a report by Yahoo's Jason King, Baylor is rather confident that if the Big 12 does dissolve, the school will find a home in the Big East.

“There haven’t been any guarantees,” a source with knowledge of the situation told King. “But [Baylor] feels strongly that that’s what would happen.” 

Which is rather interesting to hear if it's indeed true. Like I said, I understand why Baylor wants to keep the Big 12 together, but their method in trying to do so seemed like a bit much. Instead of just stating the obvious, Baylor has been using a lot of rhetoric about preserving the sanctity of college football and the integrity. It's also talked about the best interest of the fans, and worrying about the effects that realignment can have on the states of the schools involved.

Which seems a bit funny to me because I seem to remember Baylor being one of four Texas schools that left SMU, TCU, Houston and Rice behind when they left the now-defunct SWC for the Big 12 when it formed in 1996. I guess it was okay back then.

Now this report about Baylor and the Big East?

Again, I don't begrudge Baylor for finding a safety net. It's what any institution in the Big 12 should be doing right now just in case. But don't try to pretend you're worried about the sanctity of college football and preserving tradition when your actions show that just like everyone else, the thing you're really worried about is yourself.
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Since: Mar 23, 2009
Posted on: September 8, 2011 3:39 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

Baylor to the Big East makes about as much sense as TCU in the Big East.

Big 12:
Loses - Texas A&M
Gains - BYU, Pitt, UL

So its ok for Pitt, in the northeast regoin to travel to Texas, but its not ok for TCU to do it?? I know this is your opinion, but I personally believe it should have more consistancy, but thats why this isn't my post on realignment, and it is yours.



Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: September 8, 2011 3:38 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

Big East, Just Say No To Baylor! It's bad enough that TCU is in the Big East already. How many teams are going to be in the Big East?

Better yet, ACC or Big Ten, do us all a favor and invite Pitt, Syracuse, and UConn so they don't get stuck in a league of 20 teams with half of them west of the Mississippi River.



Since: May 6, 2007
Posted on: September 8, 2011 3:33 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

Actually no Texas wasn't up front and honest about the LHN.  When it was first set up their was no mention of high school games to the other big 12 colleges.  That wasn't let slip until the ESPN guy gave up the goods in an interview.  That's when everything hit the fan.  That was a shady move that texas KNEW would only help in recruiting.  So no.  They really weren't "up front" about what their eventual plans were.  So don't go trying to make Texas look all innocent in this.  Basicaly teams are really tired of treating Texas like the diety and are ready to look elsewhere where hopefully the grass is greener.  I mean come on.  I'm an OU fan and i'm actually hopeing we go to the pac-12.



Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: September 8, 2011 3:27 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

on what map is baylor east???  i thought conferences were ideally supposed to follow some geographic idea???


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Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: September 8, 2011 3:20 pm
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Since: Aug 26, 2011
Posted on: September 8, 2011 3:15 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

Let me see if I have this correct.  Baylor wants to hold on to the right to sue the SEC and A&M for trying to breakup the Big XII.  The Big XII "reached" out to Arkansas to see if they would want to come to the Big XII (per their AD) and now we hear that the Big East has been talking to Baylor about coming to their conference.

Even after all of this, there are those that think that Baylor is some great university by standing up to A&M and the SEC.  If even half of this is true, Baylor is the one that looks very foolish in this mess.  At least those that have bashed Texas have to admit that they have at the very least been up front with their LHN contract.

I hope that Baylor bolts to the Big East and gets stuck with crazy travel cost.



Since: May 7, 2009
Posted on: September 8, 2011 2:56 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

Fornelli:  correct.  Either act naive and take the high-ground or play the game candidly.  Baylor better do some fast talking and back-tracking about where they really stand on money, brand and future building of the program.  Why would any conference want them when they've shown that their interests come ahead of everyone else's?  It's not like they're SC or Texas and can find friends with just a smile and a fistful of dollars.



Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: September 8, 2011 2:38 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

Makes No sense at all, just like TCU jumping to the Big east.
Why not find a conference NEAR you geographically that makes sense to join?
Oh that's right the BCS doesn't let every Division 1 conference into it's little party.
The solution is that the BCS should automatically include every D1 conference or maybe Baylor & the rest of the Big 12 schools need to reform under the old Southwest Conference banner, let Iowa state, Missouri & the Kansas schools find their own conference and get as many of the old SWC teams back in a new conference, bring in Houston, SMU & TCU too.
The other option is to join the WAC  or the Mountain West both of which are lower tiered conferences so why not bring back the old SWC ?
Those are options but the main one that needs to happen is that the NCAA has to tell the BCS committee that all conferences are eligible or the deal is off, it would prevent idiotic moves like Baylor, like TCU going to the Big east which is part of the BCS championship party that's more like BS if you ask me!



Since: Sep 8, 2011
Posted on: September 8, 2011 2:37 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

Baylor to the Big Est makes about as much sense as TCU in the Big East. College football has lost it's way due to big money and the BCS. With that being said, I dont beleive Baylor is going anywhere. The Big 12 will survive. I think realignment will look like this.

Big 12:
Loses - Texas A&M
Gains - BYU, Pitt, UL
 
SEC
Gains - Texas A&M
Gains - WVU (I say this because the ACC Teams can not leave until the 2013 season and they are pretty commited to the ACC)

ACC
Stays at 12 with no intention of expanding

B1G
Stays at 12 with no intention of expanding unless Notre Dame decides join

Big East
Loses - WVU, Pitt, UL
Gains - ECU, UCF, UH, Villinova, Memphis  (Big East Brings up Villinova takes the rest from CUSA to become 12)
Gains - TCU in 2012 anyway

PAC12
Stays at 12 with no intention of expanding (Money is to good right now, They don't want to share)

MWC
Loses - TCU (gone in 2012 anyway)
Gains - UTEP, SMU
Gains - UN, UH and Fresno state anyway

CUSA
Loses - UTEP, SMU, ECU, UCF, UH, Memphis
Gains - FAU, FIU, ULM, LA Tech, North Texas, Ark State, Troy, Middle Ten, WKU and APP State from FCS.(CUSA only 16 team conference)

WAC
Loses -  La Tech (UN, UH and Fresno state anyway)
Gains - Additional FCS Universities

Sunbelt
Gone

There are many diffrent ideas floating around but this is the one that i think works the best. There are alot of things I would like to see diffrent like geographical location of the university to the conference but we all know that money and tv rule college football.



Since: Mar 6, 2007
Posted on: September 8, 2011 2:35 pm
 

Baylor to the Big East?

Baylor is not up and coming into anything but some other dudes backside!


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