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Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

Posted on: September 12, 2011 6:23 pm
Edited on: September 13, 2011 6:55 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

The SEC may eventually add a 14th team to go with lucky No. 13 Texas A&M, who Mike Slive confirmed Monday has had its application accepted by the league--though thanks to the various legal entanglements thrown in the Aggies' way, is apparently not a full member yet.

But as for team No. 14, it sounds as if Slive is fully prepared to wait at least a year to find it, if not longer. Slive also said in his statement that the league has no "immediate plans for a 14th member. We aren’t thinking in terms of numbers. We think about the strength of the SEC and the attractiveness of Texas A&M as an institution."

To drive that point home, Slive also confirmed the SEC has "started to look at schedules for 2012-13 involving thirteen teams."

But that little factoid also helps drive a second point home: while A&M isn't officially within the league's ranks yet, they might as well be. "We remain optimistic that Texas A&M will be a member of the SEC," Slive said, commissioner-speak for "Trust me, it's happening, don't worry."

Of course, that's been the expectation ever since the SEC confirmed that its presidents had voted to bring the Aggies into the fold the moment they were legally free to do so. But the expectation has also been that the league -- which Slive famously said could expand to 16 within a matter of minutes -- wouldn't bother playing even one season with unbalanced divisions and an unusual odd-numbered membership.

Given that Slive already feels comfortable enough to tell us the SEC's preliminary 2012-2013 schedules will have just 13 teams included, though, the smart money should now overwhelmingly be on A&M coming aboard in the very near future ... and anyone else in 2013 at the earliest.

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Since: Sep 16, 2006
Posted on: September 12, 2011 10:35 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

Bama, if its a 7 team division you will have 6 divisional games not 7, you are the 7th and can not play yourself.

Since: Aug 12, 2006
Posted on: September 12, 2011 10:04 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

I think Auburn would drop the LSU rivalry, and Bama the Tennesse Rivalry(Not been much of a rivalry in recent years.) That would clear way for a cross div rivalry. Or With 14 teams that means a extra SEC game.

7 Div games (ALL your div each year)

2 Cross Div Rivalry games

1 Revolving cross div game 

2 OOC games   

That would preserve rivalrys and SEC SOS would improve. 

Since: Feb 2, 2007
Posted on: September 12, 2011 10:01 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

I agree that Baylor's desperate attempts not to be left out in the cold may scare away any suitors. They already will have trouble getting invited to most conferences because Baylor needs to seriously upgrade their facilities. They have a beautiful new baseball park, have improved the basketball arena, but the football stadium is glorified high school (actually shares a parking lot with the local high school field) and the rest of their facilities are old and rundown. Once Robert Griffin leaves, Baylor will return to their usual two wins a year football program and Tea Party attitudes. Grant Teaff was an incredible recruiter who was able to win at Baylor, but the typical coach will have trouble recruiting there. And their alumni does not 'travel well' because they spend very little money on road trips and bring relatively few fans to away games, especially those outside of Austin and College Station.

Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: September 12, 2011 10:01 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

FSU is "not that good in other non-football sports"? I seem to recall the Seminoles advancing to the Sweet 16 last  year in men's basketball. They would be better than average in the SEC most years...

Since: Feb 2, 2007
Posted on: September 12, 2011 9:53 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

On the field, I'd agree with you. But, apparently, back in the late 90s, FSU had a chance to join and not only said "No", but Bowden had some unkind things to say about his opinion of the SEC. He may be gone, but people have long memories and have not forgotten. plus, from a financial point of view, FSU cannot bring new television markets to the SEC since Tallahassee is not offering anything they don't already have thanks to UF. FSU is pretty good in baseball, but not that good at other non-football sports, so that is a non-issue as well. 

Ideally, the 14th member should be a geographical offset for A&M, meaning from the eastern area of the conference map... FSU fits that, but so would Clemson, Georgia Tech (a former member who also ruffled a lot of feathers when they departed), and as a couple of writers have suggested, West Virginia. West Virginia would add instant credibility in both football and basketball plus bringing the western Pennsylvania television market with them.

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: September 12, 2011 9:41 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

Dude, you are a Texas hater that's for sure.  All these teams only care about themselves, including Texas.  If you really think the other teams are all good old school mindset and don't care about money then you are a moron.

Since: Nov 27, 2007
Posted on: September 12, 2011 9:41 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

That was the most repetitive post about Texas EVER

Since: Jul 28, 2011
Posted on: September 12, 2011 8:56 pm
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Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: September 12, 2011 7:46 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

I would like to see FSU as number 14, barring that USF. At least keep it in the SE

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: September 12, 2011 7:30 pm

Slive: No 'immediate plans' to add 14th member

I happen to think the sec would be prepared to extend a invitation to another program as soon as the dust settle on the Texas A&M transaction. The sec has accepted the Aggies into the conference. What the conditions are is for the Aggies to clear up any potential legal entanglements that Baylor might cause I would think.

Baylor did not help themselves in threatening to file a law suit against the sec. It would make another conference leery of inviting them to become a member. Baylor might not get an invite to a major conference as it is.

I think if C-USA or the Mountain West would want to expand then Baylor, the two Kansas schools might be a good addition to them, especially the Mountain West.

The thing with the sec in finding a new team is what division would the new team be added to? As I understand it Auburn has indicated since Texas A&M would  be added they would accept a division move from the West to the east.

This would decide as to which team would be invited in to the conference.

Auburn and Alabama fans need not worry the conference would find away to continue the annual rival game between these two. If they fail to do this they would be losing revenue and TV exposure. Those two schools have fans around the world that, even though they no longer reside in the south still look forward to that game each year and watch it on TV.


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