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Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Posted on: September 13, 2011 12:40 pm
Edited on: September 14, 2011 11:26 am
 
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

We can't personally vouch for the credibility of the Austin-American Statesman's sources. But if the picture portrayed by those sources in this story by Kirk Bohls and Alan Trubow is at all accurate, the day of reckoning for the Big 12 is just about at hand.

According to the report -- and as also reported by CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd -- University of Texas president Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds flew to Oklahoma Sunday for a meeting with Sooners officials. Powers' and Dodds' aim, according to Bolhs and Trubow: convince Oklahoma (and by association, joined-at-the-hip in-state rival Oklahoma State) to remain in the Big 12 and forgo applying for membership in the Pac-12.

But according to the report's sources, the Sooners' minds were -- and are -- already made up. They're looking West:
"There's nothing Texas could have offered Oklahoma that would have changed their mind. They were set on leaving the Big 12 before Texas got there," a well-placed source at a Big 12 school said, adding that Sunday's meeting had a very friendly and cooperative tone. "The Big 12's done. Oklahoma wasn't open to creating Big 12 stability" ...

"Texas must have come into the meeting and seen the handwriting on the wall," said a source close to OU and Texas who is familiar with these realignment issues. "I think OU and OSU will seek membership to the Pac-12 in the next two weeks, but [Texas] A&M comes first."
Despite the Sooners' and Cowboys' intentions, even the report isn't ready to move the realignment chess pieces just yet. While the Oklahoma and Oklahoma State move is "expected," Larry Scott -- who has said repeatedly the Pac-12 doesn't want to expand at this time -- and the Pac-12 presidents could reject the Sooners' and Cowboys' applications.

But assuming Scott does pull the trigger, Texas would be left without a viable conference as the Big 12 crumbles. Per the report, their options at that stage would be to follow the Oklahoma schools to the Pac-12 (or -14), apply to join the ACC, or go independent--and the report claims Texas officials have already had highly preliminary talks with the ACC.

While independence is described as the least appealing option for Dodds and Texas officials, the Longhorn Network could be a major stumbling block for joining one of the other conferences. According to Bohls and Trubow, "Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network, but it would not be able to retain the network as is in the Pac-12." The Longhorns are also reportedly balking at the Pac-12's plan for divisional alignments in a 16-team scenario.

So what's the bottom line right now? With the Statesman report backing the widespread rumors that the Sooners are ready to pack their bags, it seems safe to assume that Oklahoma is indeed bent on abandoning the Big 12 and concluding its viability as a conference. But past that? Every other conference realignment chip is still in the air, and it remains anybody's guess where they fall.

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Since: Sep 6, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 8:35 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

While independence is described as the least appealing option for Dodds and Texas officials, the Longhorn Network could be a major stumbling block for joining one of the other conferences. According to Bohls and Trubow, "Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network, but it would not be able to retain the network as is in the Pac-12."

Nobody wants the Longhorn network.  Does anybody even get it outside of Texas???  I hope the longorns are able to replace their league with a bunch of has beens and never will be's like Houston, SMU, Rice, Tulsa, Tulane...  Then they can keep their effing network and shove it up their collective az$es!!


Suck it, Texas. 



Since: Nov 30, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 7:55 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Of course it's about money ! Big time college sports now rakes in billions of dollars and the elite programs i.e. Oklahoma, Texas etc etc  gets a bigger piece of the pie ! 

The BCS should be renamed the BSCS for Bull S!!! Championship Series  !



Since: Sep 17, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 7:24 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Because the SEC would never allow the Longhorn Network.  The football weak ACC might let them keep it just to lure TX is and keep the conference a viable option vs the Big East.  One of those two conferences will be going the way of the Big 12.



Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 6:56 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Just in case there is someone out there who doesn't get it, and there may actually be 2 or 3, this isn't about football or alumni or fans or students. It isn't about rivalries or winning or super conferences or which conference is better or my dog is smarter than your dog... This is about one thing and one thing only, the Almighty Dollar. Period. Oh, but there is one catch. It is about how the school leaders perceive the dollar, not how the media sees things and certainly not how we the fans (who buy the tickets, wear the teeshirts, and watch the games) want things.



Since: Sep 1, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 6:55 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Oklahoma is always overrated. Unitl last year's win over (laughing) Connecticut, they had lost 5 STRAIGHT BCS GAMES.

Go to the PAC (#) and beat up on Arizona, Washington State and Oregon State and then get your a**es handed to you in a BCS game.



Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 5:21 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

This is fun. CBS has one perspective, ESPN another. Hard to discern what makes sense and what doesn't. One thing certainly is clear, we're headed toward 16 team super conferences. It is just a matter of time before it happens the only question is which team or conference wants to be the one that makes the first move. It certainly is a dubious title to thought of as the school/conference that forever changed college athletics and perhaps killed some of the best rivalries going.



Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 4:31 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Don't you just love it when the media reports on rumors, speculation and innuendo. I wish cbssports and cbs would verify with more than one source before reporting a story. 



Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: September 14, 2011 4:07 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

No, Dodd's report said that officials from the two schools met and the rest was speculation on his part.  Big deal.  This is the FIRST evidence that anything of consequence came out of that meeting.  How did Dodd miss the scoop on that?  And of course, Texas is not going to be able to keep the LHN intact, if it were to join another conference, such as the Pac 12.  Why would the Pac 12 tolerate something that is prbably helping to drive Oklahoma and Oklahoma State from the Big 12?  I'd like to see Texas get sucked into the ACC, primarily a basketball conference, and be happy.  See, I can write speculation based on just a couple facts too.  Because that's all it really is, speculation.



Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 3:46 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Please note that I don't believe a single thing I just wrote.  I just enjoy reading Texas fans' comments and their unflappable arrogance, regardless of the state of disarray their program is in at the moment.

Consider my last comment an homage.  Only a state like Texas could produce fans with egos that size!  =)



Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 3:38 am
 

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Silly college football fans.  Don't you know that every Texas fan is the smartest guy in the room?  They know everything, their team is better than yours, and there's nothing you can say to them to convince them otherwise.

If you dare suggest that their terrible school caused the demise of (yet another) football conference, be ready to be insulted.  They'll call you a loser, they'll say your team is terrible, and yet they just came off of a 5 win season!  The sun only shines in Texas, didn't you know?  Longhorn greed has killed the Big 12, but it's only because you're all losers for not being Texas!  Didn't you know?  Texas prints its own money and does what it wants.

Never mind they have less national championships than most other major fanbases.  Never mind they have less Heismans, or All-Americans.  Never mind they'd barely be relevant if it weren't for a guy named Vince Young single-handedly beating the best team in the nation.  Forget all that.  They're flippin' Texas, for chrissakes!  As far as we know, they invented football down there.

Go ahead; try to convince a Longhorn fan that they are about to cater to another conference, plead for admission, or be forced to go independent with their basketball team playing in the Sun Belt.  You can't.  It's impossible.  But with all that power, who cares?  They're freakin' Texas and they make the rules.  Haven't you heard?


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