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Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Posted on: September 13, 2011 12:40 pm
Edited on: September 14, 2011 11:26 am
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

We can't personally vouch for the credibility of the Austin-American Statesman's sources. But if the picture portrayed by those sources in this story by Kirk Bohls and Alan Trubow is at all accurate, the day of reckoning for the Big 12 is just about at hand.

According to the report -- and as also reported by's Dennis Dodd -- University of Texas president Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds flew to Oklahoma Sunday for a meeting with Sooners officials. Powers' and Dodds' aim, according to Bolhs and Trubow: convince Oklahoma (and by association, joined-at-the-hip in-state rival Oklahoma State) to remain in the Big 12 and forgo applying for membership in the Pac-12.

But according to the report's sources, the Sooners' minds were -- and are -- already made up. They're looking West:
"There's nothing Texas could have offered Oklahoma that would have changed their mind. They were set on leaving the Big 12 before Texas got there," a well-placed source at a Big 12 school said, adding that Sunday's meeting had a very friendly and cooperative tone. "The Big 12's done. Oklahoma wasn't open to creating Big 12 stability" ...

"Texas must have come into the meeting and seen the handwriting on the wall," said a source close to OU and Texas who is familiar with these realignment issues. "I think OU and OSU will seek membership to the Pac-12 in the next two weeks, but [Texas] A&M comes first."
Despite the Sooners' and Cowboys' intentions, even the report isn't ready to move the realignment chess pieces just yet. While the Oklahoma and Oklahoma State move is "expected," Larry Scott -- who has said repeatedly the Pac-12 doesn't want to expand at this time -- and the Pac-12 presidents could reject the Sooners' and Cowboys' applications.

But assuming Scott does pull the trigger, Texas would be left without a viable conference as the Big 12 crumbles. Per the report, their options at that stage would be to follow the Oklahoma schools to the Pac-12 (or -14), apply to join the ACC, or go independent--and the report claims Texas officials have already had highly preliminary talks with the ACC.

While independence is described as the least appealing option for Dodds and Texas officials, the Longhorn Network could be a major stumbling block for joining one of the other conferences. According to Bohls and Trubow, "Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network, but it would not be able to retain the network as is in the Pac-12." The Longhorns are also reportedly balking at the Pac-12's plan for divisional alignments in a 16-team scenario.

So what's the bottom line right now? With the Statesman report backing the widespread rumors that the Sooners are ready to pack their bags, it seems safe to assume that Oklahoma is indeed bent on abandoning the Big 12 and concluding its viability as a conference. But past that? Every other conference realignment chip is still in the air, and it remains anybody's guess where they fall.

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Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: September 15, 2011 2:59 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Texas is state that give the nation shows like Dallas, Texas Rich or Rich Texas, Most Eligible Dallas Snobs or whatever that is called. It's reality TV and the reality is that no one is going to watch the Real Houswives of Norman, or The Dating Among the Rich in College Station.  Is there a series based in Nebraska?
You do realize College Station is in Texas don't you forty? You list shows like Dallas which is much closer to CS than it is to Austin and somehow use that in your logic? Last time I checked none of the TX shows centered around UT but good luck with that ego, it's exactly what has so many rolling their eyes at Texas. You are exactly the kind of fan all my friends from UT cringe about when they have to take the brunt of all this anti-longhorn sentiment. Keep telling yourself it's all about the money, it's only a small part of a much larger puzzle, or let go of the arrogance and face the realities. UT let it's ego get carried away and wrote a check they can't cash. Most UT fans I know are fully aware of that and are justifiably angry at the powers behind the wheel.  

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: September 15, 2011 2:14 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

I'm from Florida and a big Gator fan, but I do agree with everthing you just said.  Greed and Power leads to devastation; not just in sports, but in business and politics as well.  Just ask Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Tiger Woods, O.J. Simpson just to name a few.  Country's  like Germany, Japan, Spain, England, France and Italy have all fallen dynasties due too greed and power and now the U.S.A. is starting to crumple economically due to the importation of foreign goods from Japan, China, Korea, and technology from India but we have to ask who is responsible?  American big business is to blame to garner more profits from former depressed country's leaving the american worker holding the bag.  Same appy's to Texas U. wanting to controll the former big 12 conference.  I do not hate Texas, but put the blame where it belongs. 

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: September 15, 2011 1:39 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

enjoy your wealth!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Oct 14, 2009
Posted on: September 15, 2011 1:18 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

I personally believe there is plenty of blame to go around on this one, with yes, Texas having the lion's share. However, Neb, Missouri, and my fav OU, have some blood on their hands as well (IMHO). Not going into details to bash any of the above.

???????????????  Really?????  Please explain yourself.  

Texas approached the Pac 10 almost three years ago about coming with five other members of the Big 12.  Nebraska and Colorado got wind of the deal.  Nebraska had long been unhappy with Texas and their scab-kneed lackey, Dan Beebe, running roughshod over the conference.  They realized it was time to leave, so they jumped to the Big 10 while Colorado jumped to the Pac 10 (the Pac 10 always wanted them).  ESPN convinced the Whorns to stay in the Big 12 by offering them a ridiculous TV contract to jumpstart the Whorn Network.

Missouri had nothing to do with any of it other than always wishing they could be in a conference where someone cared.  Unfortunately for them, the Big 10 didn't offer or care.  Oklahoma was just fine until they finally woke up to the realization that the Whorn Network was going to destroy the conference.

Nice try, but your comment was a major FAIL!!!


Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: September 15, 2011 11:53 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Just want to remind you BigdaddyQH, the Last time Texas played VT in the Sugar Bowl, Virginia Tech won.  The last two times Texas A&M played VT, Virginia Tech won both games.(one at Kyle Field and one at Lane Stadium). Don't knock the ACC !!

Since: Jul 30, 2010
Posted on: September 15, 2011 11:34 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Nice point, Bleed-orange.  Texas is one of the best businesses in the college landscape.  They just aren't one of the best college football programs.  They have success much like other fringe Big 12 teams, basically thriving against inferior competition and in past years when OU and Nebraska were down.  Fact of the matter is, they are attractive as a business, and conferences like the Pac 12 and SEC find them highly attractive based on the premise that if their available budget was every spent wisely, like football powers like Oklahoma have, the national attraction would be amazing.  Population and land mass alone become a significant draw, and schools like Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU, Florida, USC, etc. drool at the thought of being able to access and put the talent available to UT to efficient use!

I'll admit that Texas has superior funding, massive recruiting capabilities, resource opportunities, and other strategic benefits including the alignment with their new sugar-daddy (ESPN).


Now please explain two things to the masses:

1.)Why none of these benefits have provided this financial and intellectual juggernaut the ability to gain any measurable competitive edge over a small, frail, school in a state the size of my beloved Sooners?

2.) Why this perceived giant would shy away from the competitive opportunities provided by the SEC, Pac 12, or Independence (Can't imagine Texas schedule without the benefit of blaming the competitive Big 12 for their out of conference schedule), and why they appear to be aligning themselves with a virtual powerhouse conference like the ACC?

I'll admit that OU has little interest in aligning with the SEC, and can't imagine that been a path to comparable success as OU has experienced in the Big 12 (fighting schools like Florida, Alabama, Auburn, LSU at the top instead of Texas and A&M would be rough), but why spend the whole year playing conference games versus East Popcorn State?

I'm just saying. 

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: September 15, 2011 10:45 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Texas, your house is falling down around you.  I guess you could watch your tv station to help ease the pain.

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: September 15, 2011 10:23 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

This could have all been avoided had the Big Tex conference started something similar as the BTN. One school does not have enough content in its inventory to support a 7/24/365 network. Blame your conference commisioner, not Texas, for not having the foresight to avoid arrmageddon! Now the conference is imploding and even Texas can't find a home that will accept the LHN in its current format, except maybe that football juggernaut...the ACC, soon to be known as the Big Tex East!

Since: May 27, 2011
Posted on: September 15, 2011 10:10 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

please send me some of those pain pills that you are taking

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: September 15, 2011 9:52 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

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