Blog Entry

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Posted on: September 13, 2011 12:40 pm
Edited on: September 14, 2011 11:26 am
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

We can't personally vouch for the credibility of the Austin-American Statesman's sources. But if the picture portrayed by those sources in this story by Kirk Bohls and Alan Trubow is at all accurate, the day of reckoning for the Big 12 is just about at hand.

According to the report -- and as also reported by's Dennis Dodd -- University of Texas president Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds flew to Oklahoma Sunday for a meeting with Sooners officials. Powers' and Dodds' aim, according to Bolhs and Trubow: convince Oklahoma (and by association, joined-at-the-hip in-state rival Oklahoma State) to remain in the Big 12 and forgo applying for membership in the Pac-12.

But according to the report's sources, the Sooners' minds were -- and are -- already made up. They're looking West:
"There's nothing Texas could have offered Oklahoma that would have changed their mind. They were set on leaving the Big 12 before Texas got there," a well-placed source at a Big 12 school said, adding that Sunday's meeting had a very friendly and cooperative tone. "The Big 12's done. Oklahoma wasn't open to creating Big 12 stability" ...

"Texas must have come into the meeting and seen the handwriting on the wall," said a source close to OU and Texas who is familiar with these realignment issues. "I think OU and OSU will seek membership to the Pac-12 in the next two weeks, but [Texas] A&M comes first."
Despite the Sooners' and Cowboys' intentions, even the report isn't ready to move the realignment chess pieces just yet. While the Oklahoma and Oklahoma State move is "expected," Larry Scott -- who has said repeatedly the Pac-12 doesn't want to expand at this time -- and the Pac-12 presidents could reject the Sooners' and Cowboys' applications.

But assuming Scott does pull the trigger, Texas would be left without a viable conference as the Big 12 crumbles. Per the report, their options at that stage would be to follow the Oklahoma schools to the Pac-12 (or -14), apply to join the ACC, or go independent--and the report claims Texas officials have already had highly preliminary talks with the ACC.

While independence is described as the least appealing option for Dodds and Texas officials, the Longhorn Network could be a major stumbling block for joining one of the other conferences. According to Bohls and Trubow, "Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network, but it would not be able to retain the network as is in the Pac-12." The Longhorns are also reportedly balking at the Pac-12's plan for divisional alignments in a 16-team scenario.

So what's the bottom line right now? With the Statesman report backing the widespread rumors that the Sooners are ready to pack their bags, it seems safe to assume that Oklahoma is indeed bent on abandoning the Big 12 and concluding its viability as a conference. But past that? Every other conference realignment chip is still in the air, and it remains anybody's guess where they fall.

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Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: September 13, 2011 1:18 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

I've long been saying College Football will go to 4 major conferences and 4 mid-major conferences. In this plan, The Big East will be raided and merge with the A-10 to makeup a basketball conference sans Temple. ACC adds the New England/New York tv market. Big Ten adds the STL and KC tv markets while adding an instate rival for PSU as promised back in 1990 and gets the highly coveted Notre Dame. SEC adds Louisville and stays pat at 14 and the Pac 16 gets much stronger with their 4 Big 12 additions. Of course, this may not end up being even close to 100% accurate as far as schools realignment, the format is realistic: 4 Majors and 4 Mid-Majors.


Big 16: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio St, Penn St, Purdue, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, Mich St, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Missouri, Kansas, and Pitt.

SEC: Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, S. Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Miss, Miss St, A&M, Louisville.

Pac 16: Cal, Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, Washington, Wash St, Arizona, Ariz St, Colorado, UCLA, USC, Utah, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma St.

ACC: Boston College, Clemson, NC St, Wake Forest, Duke, Georgia Tech, N. Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech, West Virginia, UConn, Syracuse, Florida St, Miami, Maryland, and Rutgers.


Big 12: Kansas St, Iowa St, Baylor, Houston, Rice, TCU, Air Force, Wyoming, Colo St, Memphis, Tulane, BYU, and S. Miss.

MAC: Akron, Bowling Green, Buffalo, Kent St, Miami OH, Ohio, Ball St, C. Mich, E. Mich, W. Mich, Toledo, N. Illinois, Marshall, Cincy, and Temple.

Sun Belt: Ark St, Florida Atl, Florida Intl, La-Lafayette, La-Monroe, Middle Tenn, N. Texas, Troy, Tulsa, S. Methodist, UAB, UCF, E. Carolina, South Florida, and W. Kentucky.

WAC: Boise St, New Mexico, New Mexico St, San Diego St, San Jose St, UNLV, Fresno St, Hawaii, Idaho, Nevada, Utah St, and UTEP.

Since: Apr 11, 2011
Posted on: September 13, 2011 1:16 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Mizzou....the Big Ten wants YOU!!

Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: September 13, 2011 1:15 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Bring back this--bring back that---blahblahblah---you think ANY of the teams you put in your lil conference want in that????? NOT! Its about the benjamins and a BCS bid. The stuperconferences are on their way. Its all jus' stupid and ruining the game.

Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: September 13, 2011 1:12 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Bring back the Big 8 with new, more medicore teams.

Iowa State
Kansas State
Texas Tech

Since: Jul 16, 2011
Posted on: September 13, 2011 1:07 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Rest in Peace Big12

Sad for someone like me, an Iowa State Cyclone living in Lawrence, KS.  2 schools that will probably be left on the outside looking in.  Mountain West or Conference USA, here we come ....

Since: Jan 22, 2007
Posted on: September 13, 2011 1:05 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

I'm still hoping hubris comes back to bite Texas in the ass, big-time.  Sadly, they'd be a viable independent.

Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: September 13, 2011 12:50 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Really wish the big 12 could have been saved, but I think this has been coming for some time now.  OU is tired of Texas controlling their destiny and they are going to do what they want.  Not worried about OU here but Texas fans might want to show a little concern about what Texas is going to do.  Take away the Longhorn Network and we sould still have a viable Big 12.

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