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Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Posted on: September 13, 2011 12:40 pm
Edited on: September 14, 2011 11:26 am
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

We can't personally vouch for the credibility of the Austin-American Statesman's sources. But if the picture portrayed by those sources in this story by Kirk Bohls and Alan Trubow is at all accurate, the day of reckoning for the Big 12 is just about at hand.

According to the report -- and as also reported by's Dennis Dodd -- University of Texas president Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds flew to Oklahoma Sunday for a meeting with Sooners officials. Powers' and Dodds' aim, according to Bolhs and Trubow: convince Oklahoma (and by association, joined-at-the-hip in-state rival Oklahoma State) to remain in the Big 12 and forgo applying for membership in the Pac-12.

But according to the report's sources, the Sooners' minds were -- and are -- already made up. They're looking West:
"There's nothing Texas could have offered Oklahoma that would have changed their mind. They were set on leaving the Big 12 before Texas got there," a well-placed source at a Big 12 school said, adding that Sunday's meeting had a very friendly and cooperative tone. "The Big 12's done. Oklahoma wasn't open to creating Big 12 stability" ...

"Texas must have come into the meeting and seen the handwriting on the wall," said a source close to OU and Texas who is familiar with these realignment issues. "I think OU and OSU will seek membership to the Pac-12 in the next two weeks, but [Texas] A&M comes first."
Despite the Sooners' and Cowboys' intentions, even the report isn't ready to move the realignment chess pieces just yet. While the Oklahoma and Oklahoma State move is "expected," Larry Scott -- who has said repeatedly the Pac-12 doesn't want to expand at this time -- and the Pac-12 presidents could reject the Sooners' and Cowboys' applications.

But assuming Scott does pull the trigger, Texas would be left without a viable conference as the Big 12 crumbles. Per the report, their options at that stage would be to follow the Oklahoma schools to the Pac-12 (or -14), apply to join the ACC, or go independent--and the report claims Texas officials have already had highly preliminary talks with the ACC.

While independence is described as the least appealing option for Dodds and Texas officials, the Longhorn Network could be a major stumbling block for joining one of the other conferences. According to Bohls and Trubow, "Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network, but it would not be able to retain the network as is in the Pac-12." The Longhorns are also reportedly balking at the Pac-12's plan for divisional alignments in a 16-team scenario.

So what's the bottom line right now? With the Statesman report backing the widespread rumors that the Sooners are ready to pack their bags, it seems safe to assume that Oklahoma is indeed bent on abandoning the Big 12 and concluding its viability as a conference. But past that? Every other conference realignment chip is still in the air, and it remains anybody's guess where they fall.

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Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:38 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Are you for real?  Successful economic times 1932-1968?  Ever hear of "The Great Depression". or the rationing and tough times during and WWII? One more thing; the Socialist ideology is a failure by design (reference the USSR's short lived system).   In conclusion, I think someone blew out your pilot light (and it is BUY not BY) 

Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:35 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

The University of Texas is like a lot of women I know, Good lookin and born rich and built nice in all the right places but you spend some time with her and eventually her true colors start coming out.  She is actually spoiled rotten, with a black heart, and eventually you cant even look at her without seeing all her flaws because her personality is just that of someone who has always gotten their way.  The trick is figuring this out before you either get into bed with them or become irreversably jointed at the hip with them.  That is why a really good divorce or faking your own death is really expensive, because its worth it, especially when you really have to get away from someone like that.

Your absolutely right, it is in the record books, OU owns texas especially where it counts, like lets say National Championships, OU 7 UT 4, or conference titles OU 7 going on 8 to UT's 3 and they are getting worse not better.  They also count those in the record books as well, Texas has all those recruits and realy little to show for it over the last 100 years.

They have driven off every friend and competitor with their arrogance and myopic behavior and it has nothing to do with what happens on the file of play.  People in their own state cant even stand them.

Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:30 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

This is the last straw.  The NCAA and BCS can never again talk about how the current system in football preserves anything or that it is fair for everyone. That is total garbage.  The BCS monopoly and the NCAA's refusal to get rid of this very flawed and unpopular plan is based only on the money it is bringing them, nothing else.  Now their refusal to create a meritocrtacy in football is causing teams to leave their conferences sometimes turning their backs on hundreds of years of tradition so they don't get left out of the super-conference evolution that will shortly ensure that only a huge traditional power will ever win the National Championship.  They must either go back to the old method, or bring in a playoff.  Ditch the BCS and give college football back to the students.

Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:21 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Shade-Holley, it's a shame that an ignoramous like yourself can even get on a sports thread, did someone help you do it?  Your statements are ridiculous, OU would not be a bottom feeder in any conference and your arrogance must be emabarrasing for SEC fans that are intelligent enough to make serious comments on this type of format.  The SEC is a great conference but look at the ratings right now the depleted Big 12 is certainly holding its own.

Since: Apr 28, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:16 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Whiskeygirl er boy, take your socialism and get the f### out of America. We don't want socialism and never will we have it. Go live in Europe you friggin flake.

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:14 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

icetub25, there are many differences in why Pitt is a better fit to the ACC or SEC then WVU. Sorry to upset you, but facts or facts when it comes to Pitt being the overall better candidate for expansion.  

Since: Apr 28, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:13 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

LOL, Texas is reaping what it has sown.  hahahahahahahaha

Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:10 pm

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

PMM, I am not saying there isnt money out there from the networks but being from OKC and working with the city I kow from experience that it is more than Kool-Aid sales, the entertainment portions of the City tax dollars that are generated from hosting these events affect more than just a few business's in fact they were the majority of the dollars that built the largest urban renewal project in the US and have established OKC as a town that can house an NBA team for example,,,,, You Kool AId sales quip would indicate you know nothing about the actual amounts of hundreds of millions of dollars tehse events represent each year to the City as a whole, which will now be in jeopardy with the loss of the Big 12.  That aint me talking, thats the City of OKC's concern at this very moment, its a fact.

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 12:02 pm



Texas, the state which represents everything that is wrong with America.  An analogy can be made, that by having a government that caters solely to the rich, eventually the rich will have no one to by the products that make them rich and the economic house of the United States will finally collapse.  I hope that doesn't happen and we return to the more socialistic system that existed in our once proud nation between 1932-1968. Not coincidentally the most successful economic times in U.S. history, when taxes on the rich were as high as 91% and there was no such thing as the highly unnecessary billionaire.  College sports conferences; socialist ventures that they are have proved high successful economic ventures for many years.  Texas by wanting, just as our corporate rich want, an obscene percentage of the material pie, will hopefully be left alone to implode, spilling orange and white grease all over its redneck supporters.

Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:56 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Longhorn network was a bad idea.  The Big 12 is dead because of this.  I am interested to see a super conference with the Big 12 and somebody like say the Big East or ACC.  A Big MCF(Major College Football) Conference with a title game between the east and the west.  The winner would have a very stong chance to be in the title game.  Why, because this is like a playoff where 2 automatic qualifiers play each other.  Winner would have to be considered one of the top 4 teams, if not top 2.  This would mean, bye bye to anybody but the SEC having any chance of getting into the title game.  Bye Bye non BCS schools getting in ahead of the winner of such a game.  Beebe take a look at something like this.

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