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Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Posted on: September 13, 2011 12:40 pm
Edited on: September 14, 2011 11:26 am
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

We can't personally vouch for the credibility of the Austin-American Statesman's sources. But if the picture portrayed by those sources in this story by Kirk Bohls and Alan Trubow is at all accurate, the day of reckoning for the Big 12 is just about at hand.

According to the report -- and as also reported by's Dennis Dodd -- University of Texas president Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds flew to Oklahoma Sunday for a meeting with Sooners officials. Powers' and Dodds' aim, according to Bolhs and Trubow: convince Oklahoma (and by association, joined-at-the-hip in-state rival Oklahoma State) to remain in the Big 12 and forgo applying for membership in the Pac-12.

But according to the report's sources, the Sooners' minds were -- and are -- already made up. They're looking West:
"There's nothing Texas could have offered Oklahoma that would have changed their mind. They were set on leaving the Big 12 before Texas got there," a well-placed source at a Big 12 school said, adding that Sunday's meeting had a very friendly and cooperative tone. "The Big 12's done. Oklahoma wasn't open to creating Big 12 stability" ...

"Texas must have come into the meeting and seen the handwriting on the wall," said a source close to OU and Texas who is familiar with these realignment issues. "I think OU and OSU will seek membership to the Pac-12 in the next two weeks, but [Texas] A&M comes first."
Despite the Sooners' and Cowboys' intentions, even the report isn't ready to move the realignment chess pieces just yet. While the Oklahoma and Oklahoma State move is "expected," Larry Scott -- who has said repeatedly the Pac-12 doesn't want to expand at this time -- and the Pac-12 presidents could reject the Sooners' and Cowboys' applications.

But assuming Scott does pull the trigger, Texas would be left without a viable conference as the Big 12 crumbles. Per the report, their options at that stage would be to follow the Oklahoma schools to the Pac-12 (or -14), apply to join the ACC, or go independent--and the report claims Texas officials have already had highly preliminary talks with the ACC.

While independence is described as the least appealing option for Dodds and Texas officials, the Longhorn Network could be a major stumbling block for joining one of the other conferences. According to Bohls and Trubow, "Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network, but it would not be able to retain the network as is in the Pac-12." The Longhorns are also reportedly balking at the Pac-12's plan for divisional alignments in a 16-team scenario.

So what's the bottom line right now? With the Statesman report backing the widespread rumors that the Sooners are ready to pack their bags, it seems safe to assume that Oklahoma is indeed bent on abandoning the Big 12 and concluding its viability as a conference. But past that? Every other conference realignment chip is still in the air, and it remains anybody's guess where they fall.

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Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:53 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

So true. 

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:45 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

I think WV would be a great fit for the ACC...if Pitt is then they definitely are.  They are slightly farther east than Pitt too.

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:43 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Arkansas is already in the SEC

Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:29 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Wow, ShadeHolley, where did that venom come from? Do you really think Oklahoma would be an SEC bottom feeder? THey would be in a more challenging conference, but a bottom feeder? Get real!

Since: Feb 22, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:26 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Technical issues abound with your post.

You forgot four FBS schools:
Louisiana Tech

SEC with 13? (14 with Arkansas).  Why would they also not go to 16 teams?
Your 'Big 12" has 13 teams.

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:25 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Why doesn't Texas just become an Independent? They have a TV deal, they have recent sucess and they have enough of a following. Notre Dame hasn't contended in almost 20 years, ('93 was last true contender) so why not Texas? Expand the TV deal with ESPN and go solo.

Plus, they could still schedule pretty much anyone. Instead of seeing them play Kansas or Baylor, you could see them play a national schedule similar to Notre Dame. Schedule neutral site games at Cowboy Stadium, Superdome, Reliant, etc. who wouldn't want packed stadiums and national coverage? They can still play old SWC rivals and it actually could give them greater flexibility to do so. (Houston, TCU, TT, aTm, etc) and we may be able to see matchups we don't see enough. (Texas vs. LSU, FSU, Big-10, Pac-12, etc) Plus it could actuall help solve the BCS. Eliminating another conference opens flexibility for more non-AQ teams plus allows more of a chance for teams to play their way in. just a thought.

Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:14 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Big 12's future is no longer a mystery because A&M is about to be history!   

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 11:12 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Why would the SEC want West Virginia in it's league ?  WVU doesn't fit for a number of reasons in the SEC or the ACC.  Pitt, Syracuse, UConn and Rutgers would be good fits for the ACC if that league ever expanded to 16 teams.

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:58 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Hey Guys !   The BIG EAST is in such disaray with a "HODGEPODGE" of 16 Basketball Schools and 8 Football schools. There is just too many mouths to feed in this lopsided league. No disrespect to any of the member universities in the BE, but the league is so mixed up. The BE needs be a true football and basketball all-sports conference, and not splintered the way it is now.  I doubt WVU is very high on any other BSC conferences expansion list for a number of reasons.

Since: Apr 3, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:58 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

It's ironic that a year ago it was Texas that had ALL the power and Texas was the center of the Big 12 representing its stability.  Texas is the older, crude step sister now with its hand stuck in the cookie jar with the cookie jar being the Longhorn Network. It seems to be the cause of the demise of the Big 12 with all other universities understandably looking out for their own interests leaving Texas scrambling and alone. It appears still that even after seeing what the Longhorn Network has done to the Big 12 they will selfishly hold on to it which will screw Texas over yet again with aligning with other conferences. 

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