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Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Posted on: September 13, 2011 12:40 pm
Edited on: September 14, 2011 11:26 am
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

We can't personally vouch for the credibility of the Austin-American Statesman's sources. But if the picture portrayed by those sources in this story by Kirk Bohls and Alan Trubow is at all accurate, the day of reckoning for the Big 12 is just about at hand.

According to the report -- and as also reported by's Dennis Dodd -- University of Texas president Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds flew to Oklahoma Sunday for a meeting with Sooners officials. Powers' and Dodds' aim, according to Bolhs and Trubow: convince Oklahoma (and by association, joined-at-the-hip in-state rival Oklahoma State) to remain in the Big 12 and forgo applying for membership in the Pac-12.

But according to the report's sources, the Sooners' minds were -- and are -- already made up. They're looking West:
"There's nothing Texas could have offered Oklahoma that would have changed their mind. They were set on leaving the Big 12 before Texas got there," a well-placed source at a Big 12 school said, adding that Sunday's meeting had a very friendly and cooperative tone. "The Big 12's done. Oklahoma wasn't open to creating Big 12 stability" ...

"Texas must have come into the meeting and seen the handwriting on the wall," said a source close to OU and Texas who is familiar with these realignment issues. "I think OU and OSU will seek membership to the Pac-12 in the next two weeks, but [Texas] A&M comes first."
Despite the Sooners' and Cowboys' intentions, even the report isn't ready to move the realignment chess pieces just yet. While the Oklahoma and Oklahoma State move is "expected," Larry Scott -- who has said repeatedly the Pac-12 doesn't want to expand at this time -- and the Pac-12 presidents could reject the Sooners' and Cowboys' applications.

But assuming Scott does pull the trigger, Texas would be left without a viable conference as the Big 12 crumbles. Per the report, their options at that stage would be to follow the Oklahoma schools to the Pac-12 (or -14), apply to join the ACC, or go independent--and the report claims Texas officials have already had highly preliminary talks with the ACC.

While independence is described as the least appealing option for Dodds and Texas officials, the Longhorn Network could be a major stumbling block for joining one of the other conferences. According to Bohls and Trubow, "Texas has no desire to part, alter or share any aspect of The Longhorn Network, but it would not be able to retain the network as is in the Pac-12." The Longhorns are also reportedly balking at the Pac-12's plan for divisional alignments in a 16-team scenario.

So what's the bottom line right now? With the Statesman report backing the widespread rumors that the Sooners are ready to pack their bags, it seems safe to assume that Oklahoma is indeed bent on abandoning the Big 12 and concluding its viability as a conference. But past that? Every other conference realignment chip is still in the air, and it remains anybody's guess where they fall.

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Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:40 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

lol - those tricks might work on aTm but not on OU. PAC has far better academics - which in terms of funding opportunities far outweighs the football money. Pardon me for looking at a picture of university success that goes beyond the football field.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:49 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Run to the west coast since your too chicken to play in a real conference like the SEC.

True. The $EC pays their players more. Sad that aTm is selling out it's traditons.

Since: Jan 26, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:48 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

What the hell is The Big house & the Shoe....their are OTHER teams in the Big ten. Also.....why do you have to associate the conference with the two most corrupt schools in the big ten. Most fans are sick of hearing about these cheaters!

Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:40 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Why does everyone assume that Big 12 dissolving is going to lead to the ACC or the Big East dissolving as well?  The most likely scenario is the Pac-12 goes to 16 with the four rumored teams, the SEC gets to 14 within a year with either a former Big 12 school (Missouri?) or a Big East school (WVU?).  Then the Big East snatches up either three or four teams to bring them to 12 (Kansas/Kansas State/Missouri/Iowa State or KU/KSU/ISU).  The B1G stands pat at 12, as does the ACC. 

Pac-16 (16)
SEC (14)
B1G (12)
ACC (12)
Big East (12 - 20)

The Big Ten is not going to add members just to add members.  The ACC is very happy with 12.  The Big East would like to get to 12.  Baylor is left out in the cold and likely joins the MWC.

Since: Sep 4, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:22 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Run, Run, Run OU! Run to the west coast since your too chicken to play in a real conference like the SEC. Texas A&M is the only school with any guts. Us here in real football country would love to have your over rated school join us...... we could use a bottom feeder in the west! Go Hogs, LSU, Bama, Tenn, Florida, Vandy, Miss St, Geo, SC, Ky, Ol Miss, and Aub the teams that rally run football

Since: Dec 10, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:21 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

hey dan beebe......................remember


yeah who gets the last laugh hatch your future on to the wrong wagon......texas is gonna be fine in the long run they have money. As for you, you wont have a conference come 2013 and im being nice about that you really wont have much next year. NU/CU saw the writing on the wall and now everybody see the Cornhuskers were right about the big12.

put that in your pipe you son of a__________

Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:21 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Seems as if the Big12 is going to blow up sooner than later, I like LSUGEEK's idea.  I despise the SEC but the PAC"12" is a weaker conference.  So, why not go SEC. 

If that was to happen, we would see a four team playoff system.  A playoff system within the conference could eventually push to a playoff system nationally???

LSUGEEK may be a "geek" but he/she (not wanting to just assume) is spot on.

This would make 3 major conference powers in football, SEC, the conference that houses the Ducks, Beavers and Huskies along with the conference that houses the BIG House and the 'Shoe.  Can't call them PAC12 or Big10 because, soon, they'll be adding more schools, too.  Can we just call them PAC and BIG?

Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:19 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Looks like Florida State is starting to smell the aromas coming from the expansion kitchen:

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:16 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Sorry, I meant to say Pac 12, although it will most likely be the Pac 16 very soon.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 9:15 am

Report: Oklahoma wants out and Big 12 is 'done'

Texas is not going to be able to run roughshod and do whatever they want as a member of the Pac 10 like they were able to do in the Big 12. The Longhorns will have to conform to the way things are done in the next conference they end up joining (including how the Longhorn Network operates) or they will be faced with the prospect of becoming an independent.

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