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Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

Posted on: September 18, 2011 7:04 pm
Edited on: September 18, 2011 7:42 pm

Posted by Adam Jacobi

The Pac-12 is in the advanced stages of a plan to bring Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State into the fold, according to various reports. Though Texas has long been linked as a potential target of the Pac-12, the Longhorn Network has always been a stumbling block for negotiations... until now.

It appears a compromise on the programming of the LHN is in the works, as reported by the Austin American-Statesman, and perhaps the Longhorn Network won't be all Texas, all the time in the future:

Nothing has been accepted or approved, yet, but the deal would allow the Longhorns to keep the Longhorn Network.

Texas, though, would have to add Pac-12 (soon to be 16) content to the LHN programming.

The Longhorns would be able to keep all of their revenue from the network if that amount is greater than one-sixteenth of what the entire Pac-12 receives for its third-tier rights. However, if one-sixteenth of the money the Pac-12 receives from third-tier rights ends up being a larger amount, the schools would divide the revenue evenly and everybody would receive the same amount, the source said.

Plans for the then-Pac-10 to bring Texas and a cadre of its mates from the former Big XII South to help form a Pac-16 crumbled in 2010 during the first round of conference realignment, with plans getting hung up on whether the four Texas schools in the Big 12 would be forced to remain together in a potential move or not. For as vocal as Baylor has been in trying to block Texas A&M's move to the SEC, it likely won't sit quietly this time around either, but so far there's been no public comment on this report by Baylor president Ken Starr or anybody else there.

As for football play in the hypothetical Pac-16, if the American-Statesman report is to be believed, talks are advanced enough that the conference is planning four four-team pods where each team would play its fellow pod members once, then two teams from each of the other three pods for a total of nine conference games. That would lead to a host of logistical questions in terms of tiebreakers and scheduling inequities year to year, but it's just about the fairest way to handle a 16-team football league without scheduling 15 conference games a year. 

If the move goes through, and if Texas A&M does indeed join the SEC as it's been trying to do for a while now, the Big 12 would be left with just five teams: Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, and the aforementioned Baylor. There will likely be a host of Big East football programs looking for a new conference to latch onto if the ACC continues siphoning programs away, so the Big 12 may see its footprint expand east. The provision mandating that a conference maintain a group of five members together for five consecutive years was removed on August 1, 2011 (thanks, @bylawblog), so the Big 12 isn't in any danger of outright disbanding unless it can't get eight eligible members together for a season. Considering SMU, Houston, and the suddenly vulnerable TCU are all viable expansion candidates right there in the state of Texas, to say nothing of programs like Louisville and Cincinnati who may be in danger of losing BCS conference status, disbanding seems exceedingly unlikely.  

At any rate, Oklahoma and Texas (opens .PDF file in new window) both have Board of Regents meetings already scheduled for Monday afternoon -- with conference realignment on their agendas -- so nobody's going to be kept waiting about this report for very long. 


Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 5:48 am

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

Since: Dec 16, 2008
Posted on: September 20, 2011 4:16 pm

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

Texas does NOT want to join the Pac-12. Fair-weather fans, mediocre teams, and less national exposure is not what Texas is looking for.

Texas wants to keep the Big 12 together, and is banking on the Pac-12 not jumping the gun and inviting Oklahoma and Oklahoma State without getting Texas first.

Texas is not excited about letting the Longhorn Network be controlled by the Pac-12, or splitting its revenue portentially between the Pac-12 members.

Trust me, Texas has no intention of joining the Pac-12. And is not going to join the Pac-12. Right now they're doing everything they can to get Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to give the Big 12 another chance, but even IF they leave, which is unlikely without Texas, Texas would NOT leave. They would either join the ACC, or rebuild the Big 12. Trust me. I know this.

Since: Jul 30, 2010
Posted on: September 19, 2011 5:17 pm

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

Just what OU needs.... Another overblown, underperforming program to join the conference with them and split the BCS payout!  Maybe Texas, ND, Kansas, Iowa State, Kansas State, Baylor, Houston, TCU, Rice, and SMU could revitalize the Southwest Conference.  You really have to feel sorry for us OU fans.  How could we ever expect to be as successful in another conference?

Come on, Horns!

Since: Mar 3, 2007
Posted on: September 19, 2011 5:07 pm

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

This news is so yesterday.

Apparently they are not close to a deal at all.

Since: Jun 2, 2010
Posted on: September 19, 2011 4:43 pm

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

last i checked oklahoma and texas were considered the west..... staying out west makes sense to go head and start burning your doll house and make your toast.

Since: Mar 11, 2007
Posted on: September 19, 2011 4:14 pm

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

When Texas, Texas Tech Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. join the PAC 16 the 4 pods will be easy to determine

Pod 1
Washington St.
Oregon St

Pod 2

Pod 3
Arizona St

Pod 4
Texas Tech
Oklahoma St. 

Since: Mar 8, 2011
Posted on: September 19, 2011 3:39 pm

Big East/Big 12

So which conference stays and which gets "absorbed" by the other?  With both conferences losing members, a joining of the conferences seems like a good fit for both. This whole thing hurts my head.
On another note, someone posted "Who is going to pay a kid out of high school fifty thousand dollars in cash? The idea is silly really."  Agreed, but there are a TON of universities willing to pay some hot shot athlete that kind of money out of high school. To think otherwise is naive. Ever hear of boosters?
And people that keep saying to pay college athletes, please realize that their education is paid for. In some cases, room, board, food - all paid for.  Just because they are not given a check with taxes taken out, do not think that a scholarship athlete is not paid.  I would love to have left college with no student loans while "not being paid." Check how much a credit hour is in your favorite university already.  Just because the business of college athletics makes millions, that does not entitle the ceo's (i.e. universities) to raise their pay scale for a 1-4 year employee.

Since: Aug 16, 2011
Posted on: September 19, 2011 3:37 pm

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

Schools from Oklahoma and Texas joining a west coast conference makes as much sense as burning your house to make toast.

Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: September 19, 2011 3:31 pm

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

Due to Big East instability with 4 teams leaving to the ACC, Notre Dame has decided to accept the Big 12's offer to join replacing a&m. With the addition of ND, Oklahoma and Texas decide the conference is now stable and will remain in the Big 12.Update: Texas has offered to pay Notre dame's $5M Big East exit fee out of petty cash.
Why is it that one of the most "hated schools" is also the most desired when it comes to inclusion into their conference? Yes hated - At least that's what you read about when ND is playing any other team. Amazing!

I don't know HornsNbr1. Thanks for the ove but wouldn't it be like selling your soul to the devil? You know, Horns and all.

Father Jenkins I'm sure would have a say in that matter. No, I think you are going to hook your way to the left coast. The thought does bring a spot of humor to all this unrest. Thanks.

Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: September 19, 2011 3:11 pm

Report: Texas, others closer to forming Pac-16

plus, i thought conferences followed some sort of geographical proximities???

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