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The Poll Attacks: Week 4

Posted on: September 19, 2011 8:12 pm
Edited on: September 19, 2011 8:35 pm
 
Posted by Bryan Fischer

The latest college football polls are out and now it's time to rip them to shreds. Senior college basketball writer Gary Parrish has been calling out voters in the major hoops polls for thinking a little bit too far outside of the box when it comes to their AP ballots every week.

With the football season starting, I thought I'd steal take the baton on the idea from my colleague and keep all of the writers across the country who vote honest. I've come to know a good number of these people through time and twitter but relationships do not matter, bad votes do.

AP Poll           Coaches Poll

(Details of AP ballots courtesy of PollSpeak.com)

Poll reactions: ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, SEC

Rodney Dangerfield "No respect" team of the week: Illinois

The fighting Zookers are 24th in the AP Poll and unranked in the coaches this week after beating a solid Arizona State team that was ranked last week. The Illini have a very favorable schedule, perhaps the easiest in the Big Ten and plenty of solid young players on both sides of the ball. They have two good coaches in offensive coordinator Paul Petrino and defensive coordinator Vic Koenning who have made a world of difference and should be higher based on what they showed against a good team last Saturday.

Overrated: Texas, Florida

Let's face it, there are a lot of voters who want Texas and Florida to be good. They're national powers with big fan bases, they've been very good in the past and it is much easier to rank teams knowing the Longhorns and Gators are somewhere in the top 10. When it comes to Florida, they've really only played one game - a win against a shaky Tennessee team - and have never left the cozy confines of The Swamp. They have a whole new staff and a team full of players we're really not sure of outside of Jeff Demps or Chris Rainey. They're ranked 15th right now which is just ok but for the 10 voters who had them in your top 12, shame on you. And Doug Lesmerises of the Cleveland Plain Dealer? 8th, really? A Florida team who blew out FAU and beat Tennessee is the 8th best in the country?

Finally, Texas. Kudos for Andy Staples of SI.com for leaving the Longhorns off his ballot completely and justifying it. Of their wins, UCLA is terrible, BYU got killed at home by Utah and Rice is, well, Rice. And that game was on The Longhorn Network so you know something was up. If you look at the ballots you'll also find a familiar name with Texas higher than anyone at 13th: Doug Lesmerises. I know it's not fun to cover Ohio State nowadays but don't punish the rest of the teams around the country by keeping UT and UF ranked high.

California Craziness

A trio of voters from California (CSN Bay Area/CBSSports.com's Ray Ratto, San Jose Mercury News' Jon Wilner, LA Daily News' Scott Wolf) are an interesting voting block. Some would call them progressive, others would call them extreme and just about everybody else will call them crazy given their fluctuations in their ballots each week. All three are consistently in Pollspeak's group of "extreme voters" so we'll highlight the most baffling decision(s) out of each.

My man Wilner finds himself in this space once again as Wolf must be doing just enough to have been the only one of the trio to not make an appearance. He has both USC's ranked higher than anyone with the eastern version fifth and the western version 14th. Georgia and Mississippi State are somehow still on his ballot ahead of Virginia Tech, Baylor and Arkansas. Yes, really. I swear Jon has been working too hard on the realignment mess to actually watch any games. Actually, I hope that's the case because he's a nice guy but a terrible, terrible voter.

What were you thinking? Ohio State

On Saturday, I witnessed first hand how terrible Ohio State was when they played Miami. The Buckeyes looked a step slower than the Hurricanes, turned the ball over, couldn't complete a pass to save their life and never did find a quarterback. Not a bad performance, an awful one. Yet somehow, seven voters decided to put Ohio State ahead of Miami on their ballots despite the head-to-head match up. I understand Ira Schoffel works in Tallahassee but come on.

Team bias

Our tech team at CBSSports.com is pretty awesome and came up with this neat tool to take a look at team and region bias in the AP Poll. Check it out below, it's a fun thing to play around with.




Comments

Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 4:55 am
 

The Poll Attacks: Week 4

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Since: Sep 18, 2007
Posted on: September 20, 2011 7:55 am
 

The Poll Attacks: Week 4

Whoa!  That IS "pretty awesome"... Your tech team came up with a fancy multi-graph that shows people most familiar with teams tend to rate that team higher than similar teams they haven't seen?  Seriously...?  That makes NO SENSE...  I mean, you're telling me, if it came down to rating Boise State or LSU at a similar place in a poll, the people who've seen Boise State play more will tend to vote higher for them, and the people who've seen LSU play more will vote higher for them?

Get outta here!  (Do you guys get paid to come up with that stuff...?  Seriously?)


Hey GoodOl... I'm not sure if you're aware of how the poll works, but the writers are responsible to watch as many teams play as possible and reasonably rate ALL of the teams based on their performance.  Just because you are closer to a team is no excuse for you to vote for that team.



Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: September 19, 2011 9:24 pm
 

The Poll Attacks: Week 4

Whoa!  That IS "pretty awesome"... Your tech team came up with a fancy multi-graph that shows people most familiar with teams tend to rate that team higher than similar teams they haven't seen?  Seriously...?  That makes NO SENSE...  I mean, you're telling me, if it came down to rating Boise State or LSU at a similar place in a poll, the people who've seen Boise State play more will tend to vote higher for them, and the people who've seen LSU play more will vote higher for them?

Get outta here!  (Do you guys get paid to come up with that stuff...?  Seriously?)




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