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Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

Posted on: October 6, 2011 10:19 am
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

According to a report from the Birmingham News, Missouri may not have the support needed to join the SEC after all.

The News's Jon Solomon reported Thursday morning that the "majority" of conference presidents and ADs would support the Tigers' application to become the league's 14th team, but that that majority "falls just short of the nine votes required" to give Missouri final approval.

According to Solomon's sources, those opposed to Missouri's membership have two points of contention. The first is that the SEC can simply "do better" than the Tigers. The other is that adding a team to the SEC West rather than East would disrupt the league's scheduling and rivalries.

The debate has reportedly led to a split between Auburn and Alabama, with the Crimson Tide opposed to Missouri's application and their in-state rivals in favor. Adding Missouri would almost certainly shift Auburn to the East division, restoring the Tigers' traditional annual rivalries with Tennessee and Florida, but potentially scuttling the Tide's yearly "Third Saturday in October" grudge match with the Volunteers. (With only one annual "cross-division" game on the schedule, Alabama couldn't play both Tennessee and Auburn with both in the East, at least not without a nine-game conference schedule.)

As noted by Solomon, Missouri's application won't be helped by an anonymous official telling the Associated Press Wednesday that the SEC would be the Tigers' second choice after the Big Ten. The public admission that Missouri might look elsewhere if the Big Ten asked them to surely won't sit well with a league that -- surely -- can find other partners that would be 100 percent committed.

So a move that looked like all but certain when the Mizzou Board of Curators voted to explore their options Tuesday now has another clear, visible hurdle in front of it. (At minimum, the SEC's plans for a 13-team 2012 season look that much closer to being set in stone.) The guess here remains that in the end, the allure of Missouri's Kansas City/St. Louis television markets will be too much for Mike Slive and the SEC to ignore (especially with the league angling for a new TV contract), and that the SEC's stability and overflowing coffers will be too much for even the Big Ten-focused Missouri officials to turn down.

But at the very least, Mizzou-to-the-SEC appears to be a deal that isn't done just yet.

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Since: Aug 10, 2008
Posted on: October 7, 2011 8:15 pm

Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

The SEC actually needs Missouri for basketball. They had a whole division get the shaft last year. Plus softball fans will admit the Missouri is the equal of Alabama and Tennessee.

Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 7, 2011 7:34 pm

Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

As a lifelong Mizzou fan, I'm kind of split between them trying to join the SEC or staying put in the BIG12. We don't have the long tradition of championship football teams but remain competative within the conference. It's a program still in stages of being built. I would be excited to join the SEC over the Big10 myself. I don't understand all the talk about the lack of Mizzou bringing anything to the table competition wise, what has Texas A&M done latley? They were a shoe in to the SEC but they are much like Mizzou in building a competetive program. So whats with all the bad love for Mizzou? From What I've read, Mizzou would be better off moneywise to stay in the Big 12. But after the exit of Nebraska and colorado, and Texas and Oklahoma basically holding the conferance hostage, I can't blame Mizzou for exploring thier options to get out while they can before they wind up like the Big East conf. You know if texas and Oklahoma get an invite and they have explored those options last year, they just might spring. So no I can't blame Mizzou for looking to get out.

Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 7, 2011 7:34 pm

Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

I am a Tennessee Volunteer and I would gladly not play Alabama every year as lately they have been winning qnd we can always meet in the SEC Championship if we are both good enough. I say go 9 conference games and that would solve everything and the conference would make more money. The days of playing patsies are soon to be over with Super Conferences anyway. Welcome Missouri or West Virgiia in and quit drawing this thing out.

Since: Mar 8, 2011
Posted on: October 7, 2011 6:15 pm

Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

For those SEC gurus that think Missouri wouldn't offer anything to the conference, you really need to get out more.  As much as I hate them (the antlers are the most obnoxious group of fans in existence) they have respectable records in both football and basketball for many years. For the KC residents who say that Missouri doesn't have near the representation that KU does, you are right but not by a large margin. It's a pretty even split with KU slightly ahead.

Since: Mar 24, 2008
Posted on: October 7, 2011 6:09 pm

Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

Consistent top 30 program for the last 5-6 years does not make your over inflated ego and value of your own selfworth a big time player.
What have you won during your Big 12 years?  Any championships?  You flirted with the Big10 last year and got your face slapped, so now you want to "whore" yourself out to the SEC.  But with the remarks made about really wanting the Big10 but would settle for the SEC just shows how little integrity Mizzou really has.  Spoiled brats that value themselves as a major player in the game.

Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: October 7, 2011 4:42 pm

Never going to be enough SEC votes to add Mizzou

Commentators still don't get it.  The SEC will not be asking Missouri to join.  It isn't only Alabama who is opposed.  Only Arkansas and Auburn have publically announced that they are for the inclusion of Missouri.  It takes nine votes.

The SEC will play unbalanced for one or two years if need be.

Since everyone is predicting, here goes:

SEC will wait until an ACC team contacts them.  Could be Florida State (Only Florida would definitely oppose), could be VA Tech (Virginia politicians may not allow), or NC State.  All can afford the 20m buy-out that they will make back in two years.

IF the ACC loses a team, UConn is an easy invite.  Rutgers may be left on the outside, unless the ACC can then attract Notre Dame. Rutgers best chance is an invite before the conference loses a team.

Big East
As it stands today, the Big East no more deserves a BCS automatic bid, than the Mountain West.  I didn't think they deserved to keep it when VA Tech/Miami/BC left.  Now losing Pitt/Cuse, not getting TCU, and probably losing UConn, they are left with ONE consistent football program, WVU.   They will survive as a conference with their basketball members, but in football, will look more like Conference USA than the Big East.   

Missouri stays put for now and the Big 12 adds two more.  I still don't buy Louisville, West Virginia, or Cincinnati.  Yes WVU is the best available football program and that's the only selling point.  TV market?  No.  Academics?  No.  Geography?  No.  The interim Big 12 commissioner has said that geography was an important consideration.  My bet is BYU and Houston.  Both better TV markets than the aforementioned Big East programs.  There may be some push back to adding another Texas team.        

One side note:  It is unfortunate that Colorado State didn't build upon momentum they had in the, I believe late 90s.  They could have at least been in the conversation to have been invited to the Pac12, or be considered to put the Big12 back in Colorado.  If I was a CSU Alum I would be furious.    

When the Pac12 stood pat that took any pressure off of Delaney.  Sure they would grow if Notre Dame would join, and then ask Missouri or Rutgers, both who would rather be Big TEN members, than go anywhere else.  Maybe one day if they give up on ND, yet again, they invite Missouri/Kansas.  It wouldn't bring much to their football stature, but it would solidify the St Louis and Kansas City markets and keep them up with ACC Basketball. 

Who knows what schools out west rise in stature?   

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Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: October 7, 2011 4:38 pm
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Since: Feb 26, 2009
Posted on: October 7, 2011 3:37 pm

Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

I agree with this . I think there is some ruffled feathers over " settling " for the SEC comment . But that did come from the proverbial "anonymus " source . It's gonna happen . Who else is the SEC going to get . No one is leaving the ACC . That is a dream . WVU has already been rejected . No one else makes sense . Rutgers ? , UConn ?.... All of a sudden a midwestern school bordering three SEC states makes more sense doesn't it . Missouri will be in the SEC before the middle of next week and I bet is a stellar fit .

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Since: Dec 27, 2008
Posted on: October 7, 2011 3:33 pm
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Since: Sep 27, 2011
Posted on: October 7, 2011 2:08 pm

Report: Not enough SEC votes to add Missouri yet

Mizzou has some people speaking for them that keep screwing them, that and the fact that it still remains to be seen what they can bring to the table. Big 10 plus 2 already gets the KC/StL TV with Nebraska and others, and the SEC could get balance and a new market by adding V Tech instead of Virginia. The SEC West would welcome Missouri, cause they would get to trade at least one Alabame school loss for a Missouri win (except Ole Miss, who will be trading for chance to still be in the game late).

I would personally love to see it happen, but Missouri can't do better than where they are. They were mediocre in the Big 8, they are mediocre in the Big 12.

They have two choices: swallow your medicine and your TV money rights and stay right where you are (at least you still have a chance to recruit Texas kids like Daniels, etc) or go join the Big East where you can titulate the KC TV viewings with the U-Mass vs. Villanova football game. Or you could get people in KC to pony up for cable so they can watch the other games!

Anyway, the latest is Oklahoma is going to get their way and get the league back to 12 (supposedly talking to Boise State and BYU). That would give the Tigers the chance to play OU and OSU every year for a shot at the title game.

Missouri might just luck out and get into the SEC, but I doubt it.  The Big 10 will take Rutgers before they take Missouri (which is sad but true)

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