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TCU to join the Big 12

Posted on: October 6, 2011 11:20 am
Edited on: October 6, 2011 4:17 pm

Posted by Tom Fornelli

As reported earlier Thursday by's Brett McMurphy, TCU will be joining the Big 12 conference.

The Big 12 made the announcement official on Thursday morning, saying that it has "authorized negotiations with TCU to become the conference's tenth member." The Big 12 also announced that Missouri did not participate in the vote on the advice of legal counsel.

"These discussions with the Big 12 have huge implications for TCU," said TCU Chancellor Victor Boschini. "It will allow us to return to old rivalries, something our fans and others have been advocating for years. As always, we must consider what's best for TCU and our student-athletes in this ever-changing landscape of collegiate athletics. We look forward to continuing these discussions with the Big 12."

"We’re proud that TCU has been invited to join the Big 12," said Texas AD DeLoss Dodds in a statement. "Their commitment to academics and success on the field make them an excellent fit. With a solid budget and strong financial support, they have been proactive at improving facilities. Their close proximity to all conference institutions makes for a comfortable travel situation."

When Texas A&M was going through the process of leaving the Big 12 for the SEC, for the most part the Big 12 kind of just sat there hoping that Texas A&M wouldn't leave. Which is a role that the Big East seems to have taken over now.

Well, obviously, the Big 12 isn't sitting still anymore. Missouri may not have said that it's leaving just yet, but the writing is on the wall, and this time the Big 12 is being a lot more proactive. Something that Oklahoma President David Boren alluded to in his statement about the addition of TCU.

“TCU is an excellent choice as a new member of the conference," said Boren. "They bring strong athletics and academic credentials and were enthusiastically and unanimously supported by all of the members of the conference. There could be other additions in the future.”

Adding TCU would bring the Big 12 back to 10 schools without Texas A&M, but once Missouri leaves the Big 12 will need to find another replacement. Schools that have been mentioned the most often are BYU, LouisvilleWest Virginia and Cincinnati. Accoring to the Tulsa World's Dave Sittler, Louisville is the next school in line for an invite, but it's possible that three of those four get invites, as the conference has been kicking around the idea of expanding back to 12 schools.

For all our coverage on conference realignment in college football, click here. You can also hear Brett McMurphy discuss TCU's move and what it means for the Big 12 and the Big East on the latest episode of the College Football Podcast here.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2011 2:04 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

If the Big 12 had a brain in their skull they would invite Boise State...bigger follwing, more cash revenue, bigger fan base, and more recent historic success than TCU...oh yeah, and a higher ranking...and leading in head to head matchups...and that is just in football.

Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: October 6, 2011 2:01 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

Thank you Horned Frogs and Big 12 for making a brilliant decision.  This will save TCU millions of dollars in traveling costs, allow student athletes to miss hundreds of fewer classes, and replace some schools that have underperformed in football--Nebraska and the Aggies--with a university that has been very successful for several years now.  From the perspective of the other Big 12 schools, Ft. Worth will be a good place for them to play and within distance of relatives who want to see their kids from Tech, Baylor, U of TEXAS, OU, OSU play up close and personal.  And from the perspective of us alums who have money and like to travel, we would rather spend our dollars at a fine Cowtown hotel and Joe T. Garcia's/Reata et al than at the Chicken coop or motel 4 in College Station. 

Since: Mar 19, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 1:57 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

You do realize that Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia (especially Louisville and Cincy) are all closer to most Big XII schools than BYU is to the closest one, don't you?  

In fact, Morgantown WV and Provo UT are roughly the same distance from Manhattan, KS. 

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2011 1:55 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

"Duane....Louisville and WVU will not be invited to the Big 12.  Why would a regional conference in the Midwest, whom only has one team outside of TX and OK want them?  BYU will be next, and from there is anyone's guess."


WHO is the one team outside of TX and OK in the Big 12?  Even if you're excluding Missouri, are you talking about Kansas, Kansas State or Iowa State?  I may not know much about the Big 12, but geography's another thing.  It appears to me that Louisville is closer- or about as close- to every Big 12 school than BYU.  You are correct, however, that BYU is a good pickup for any conference.  The problem with your "regional conference" argument is that this appears to have gone out the window when the ACC snatched BC and Miami, the Big East raided Conference USA, and especially with the current conference realignment movement.

It appears to me that TCU, West Virginia and BYU would strengthen the Big 12 in football while adding Louisville and Cincy would provide a HUGE boost in basketball, as well.  The problem with the Big 12, however, is that, even if the league became stronger than before Colorado and Nebraska left, it seems to barely edge the Big East in each school's committment to stay put. 

Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 1:54 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

The Big 8 would never survive in today's borderline super-conference world.  TCU may not have the largest fan-base but they make up for it with money and revenue (they have a larger endowment by about $200 million than OU). 

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2011 1:53 pm

TCU to join the Big 12Uh, yeah we'd really like t

Uh, yeah we'd really like to join the Big East....Uh-oh a prettier girl asked me to dance, See Ya! Ludicrous!

So I guess you expect TCU to stay with the Big #East even though the Big East has already lost 2 schools AFTER they extended TCU an invite.  Even though TCU hasn't actually joined the Big East yet.,  Even though joining the Big East made about as much sense to begin with as joining the Canadian Football League.  And who in the heck said this was about academics?  You should check yoru academics and maybe learn how to read.  For TCU this is about a BCS bid, period.  The irony of the Big 12 move is that the Big 12 was exactly where they wanted to be when the Southwest Conference died.  The Big East?   Sure it would have cost the school probably 4x as much in travel expenses, and fan would have been about half as likely to be able to attend games.  But yeah, they should have totally stuck with the Big East.  If anyone is ludicrous its you.

Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 1:51 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

Going back to the Big 8 makes no sense whatsoever.  Look what happens everytime a team leaves the Big 12 (other teams talk of bolting and some stay and others eventually leave).  The ACC is at 14 teams, the SEC will be at 14 at some point, the Big 10 at 12 and the PAC12 at 12.  Look at the Big East if that isn't enough proof for you.  Limped along at 9 teams for how many years only to have 2 of their long standing members (including one founding member) bolt for the ACC and now TCU withdrawing before they even join leaves the Big East in a very bad spot.  TCU does have tons of money (more than OU) to bring to the conference. 

Since: Jul 15, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 1:51 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

The Big Ten would take Army, Navy, Air Force, and Notre Dame before they'd take Missouri; better academics, better people.

Since: May 22, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 1:49 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

I want the Big East to succeed, but not at the expense of the Big12. TCU to the Big12 was the only Legit transfer this year. They had no business in the EAST. Scew MIZZOU, what a joke, just stay in the Big12. The Big10 didn't want you and either will the SEC, Screw A&M also for starting all this current realignment mess!!

Since: Mar 6, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2011 1:48 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

What do they bring? Defending Rose Bowl champions, who is now a perennial powerhouse , brings a great football program with great regional rivalries. Since this move isn't about other sports, it's irrelevant, but I do know off the top of my head they ahve a good baseball program- (guess that doesn't count?). You think they're going to fall off the map with a coaching change? Highly doubtful, now with the ability to recruit as a Big 12 program.

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