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TCU to join the Big 12

Posted on: October 6, 2011 11:20 am
Edited on: October 6, 2011 4:17 pm

Posted by Tom Fornelli

As reported earlier Thursday by's Brett McMurphy, TCU will be joining the Big 12 conference.

The Big 12 made the announcement official on Thursday morning, saying that it has "authorized negotiations with TCU to become the conference's tenth member." The Big 12 also announced that Missouri did not participate in the vote on the advice of legal counsel.

"These discussions with the Big 12 have huge implications for TCU," said TCU Chancellor Victor Boschini. "It will allow us to return to old rivalries, something our fans and others have been advocating for years. As always, we must consider what's best for TCU and our student-athletes in this ever-changing landscape of collegiate athletics. We look forward to continuing these discussions with the Big 12."

"We’re proud that TCU has been invited to join the Big 12," said Texas AD DeLoss Dodds in a statement. "Their commitment to academics and success on the field make them an excellent fit. With a solid budget and strong financial support, they have been proactive at improving facilities. Their close proximity to all conference institutions makes for a comfortable travel situation."

When Texas A&M was going through the process of leaving the Big 12 for the SEC, for the most part the Big 12 kind of just sat there hoping that Texas A&M wouldn't leave. Which is a role that the Big East seems to have taken over now.

Well, obviously, the Big 12 isn't sitting still anymore. Missouri may not have said that it's leaving just yet, but the writing is on the wall, and this time the Big 12 is being a lot more proactive. Something that Oklahoma President David Boren alluded to in his statement about the addition of TCU.

“TCU is an excellent choice as a new member of the conference," said Boren. "They bring strong athletics and academic credentials and were enthusiastically and unanimously supported by all of the members of the conference. There could be other additions in the future.”

Adding TCU would bring the Big 12 back to 10 schools without Texas A&M, but once Missouri leaves the Big 12 will need to find another replacement. Schools that have been mentioned the most often are BYU, LouisvilleWest Virginia and Cincinnati. Accoring to the Tulsa World's Dave Sittler, Louisville is the next school in line for an invite, but it's possible that three of those four get invites, as the conference has been kicking around the idea of expanding back to 12 schools.

For all our coverage on conference realignment in college football, click here. You can also hear Brett McMurphy discuss TCU's move and what it means for the Big 12 and the Big East on the latest episode of the College Football Podcast here.

Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: October 7, 2011 9:41 am

TCU to join the Big 12

Great trade, TCU for A&M,  TCU just won the Rose Bowl, A&M hasnt done anything since 1939.  Next get BYU to replace Colorado,, again great trade, Colorado was dead broke and in a downward spiral in football anyway (1 heisman winner, won big 12 in 2001 and national title in 1990) but BYU is not that much different but has a lot more viewers, (1 heisman winner, 4 conference titles in the last 10 years, 1 national title 1984) and a list of great quarterbacks throughout their history.  Next the Big 12 needs to grab a few more team that have lots of viewers and could become rivals, West Virginia, Louisville, Cincinatti, Boise State, and or Pitt.  Expand to 14 and apologies to the Big East but thats just the way it is.  Missouri, if they decide to go to the SEC,, thats fine, they have been looking to get out since way before Nebraska, Colorado, or A&M, in fact they were the first, but all they bring is 2 large TV markets, not really great football or a great football history (last conference title,,,, 1969, they have won 10 games or more for 3 out of the last 4 seasons but have nothing to show for it, they also claim a 1960 national title?)  Good luck to them and A&M in the SEC, better hope Alabama and Auburn get moved into the East Division, because that aint no Big 12 north division your moving into.

Since: Apr 12, 2007
Posted on: October 7, 2011 3:50 am

TCU to join the Big 12

Ok, you're corrected. You are wrong. Way wrong. BSU has lead it's conference in graduation rates for several years. NEXT!!!!

Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: October 7, 2011 2:09 am

TCU to join the Big 12

I like the fact that the Big 12 is being proactive and trying to target members to the conference that will bring stability to the conference.  However, I think the Big 12 should seriously take a look at Boise State.  For starters they are always in the mix for a BCS bowl year in and year out.  Furthermore, they have a strong record against team from power conferences.  I beleive they have won 8 out 9 games against power conference while defeating Oklahoma in a BCS bowl game.  And lastly Boise State will draw large audiences not only at where they play at but all draw large tv ratings which would bring in large amount of revenue not only to Boise State but also for the conference.  Boise State would eat this up because it give a legit contender as Boise State a chance to compete at highest level for a national championship on a yearly basis. 

Since: Sep 25, 2011
Posted on: October 7, 2011 1:58 am

TCU to join the Big 12

Who cares really what anyone thinks about who is the face of the Big East....The conf. sees to be dying and anybody that can is looking for a way out as we's still a great conference with alot of Rich History schools wise....ummm yea not good.WVU is relatively strong in the major sports and has a nice market and eventualy probabaly headed to the Big 12....the key is to be calm as everything will run its course but we should all see soon enough if WVU is "Elite" or not.....the rescent sucess(Football & basketball for about 8 straight yrs now) with nice bowl victories which includes 2 bcs wins... one of which was a thrashing to the almighty sooners and deep runs into the march with bball since the Belien days is obviously not enough for some......LOL... Again... Who Really Cares! And why even talk about this 

Since: May 24, 2010
Posted on: October 7, 2011 1:00 am

TCU to join the Big 12

LOL at NeFan77's "nonbiased" assessment ofWest Virginiaa couple of posts below!  I get it, it’s a rant of a homer and I respect that but let’s get with reality a bit.  I have nothing against WVU but to say they are the class of the Big East in hoops is crazy talk.  You can bring up facts and records to try to prove your point but when people think BE hoops they don't thinkWest Virginia.  They think Pitt, Syracuse (though both are leaving), oh idk, a little team called UConn that won it all, Georgetown, Louisville, Notre Dame, hell even Lavin going to St. Johns got more pub than WVU in the year they went to the final four in 2010, Villanova, Marquette and on and on.  West Virginia has succeeded and I won't dispute their recent results, all I am saying is when it comes to the face of BE hoops and hoops fans think of, they don't think WVU.  Also, saying WVU is the class of BE football isn't saying much which is why no one wants them among other reasons.  I will leave it to the community here to fill in their own state of the state jokes.  The reality is WVU is a good hoops program and a good football program, they aren't elite, not even close. I am not saying these other schools are (like TCU) but the fact that "no one wants them" as you say, should speak to how other conferences perceive the school and the state.  That is just my opinion from what I see though.  Besides, could you imagine them getting worked in the ACC or SEC on a weekly basis in football, they need to stick to their niche, being a big fish in a small football pond!

Since: Feb 16, 2010
Posted on: October 7, 2011 12:25 am

TCU to join the Big 12

I've Analized the situation with a computer-simulation to try to get 8 14-16 team divisions that would result in the lowest travel distance for every team. The Results for TCU is to join the WAC with New Mexico State, Arizona, Arizona State, UTEP, San Diego State, USC, Hawaiʻi, New Mexico, SMU, UTSA, Texas State, Texas, Baylor, and Texas Tech. The resulting FBS would have an average of 315.5 miles traveled per Conference road game. The most interesting note was that the simulation found that UCLA and USC should be in different Conferences even though they're both in LA

Since: Sep 14, 2008
Posted on: October 7, 2011 12:12 am

TCU to join the Big 12

Guess you don't know the enrollment numbers very good. Houston has 40,000 students enrolled and are the rd largest school in Texas. The fact that they've been in CUSA is deceiving. Also, SMU has a higher enrollment than TCU I believe. SMU is around 11,000 and I think TCU is only 9,000. SMU used to be a powerhouse for football but when they cheated and got black balled and it really damaged their athletics. I personally would like to see AZ and AZ State if neither of them are an option

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2011 11:22 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

I think this move is great for TCU.  What bothers me is what is happening to WVU?  WVU has been the class of the Big East in Football and Basketball, and no one seems to want them.  They are way better then Syracuse and Pittsburgh.  Too bad that TCU won't be joining the Big East.  I hope that TCU kicks Texas right in the junk....

Since: Nov 25, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2011 10:49 pm

Houston Baptist is next...

I heard this from a person close to the situation (Sharpstown). 

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: October 6, 2011 10:46 pm

TCU to join the Big 12

If we succeed in adding Texas Christian and keeping Missouri, we can stay at ten members and re-brand ourselves as the "I-35 League".

But if we decide to go back to twelve, we need to add to teams that make sense in terms of geography and TV presence. Assuming we add TCU and keep Mizzoodle, we ought to add Air Force, which would not only get us back into the Colorado market but get us a global presence with members our our armed forces watching our conference's games involving Air Force. And as for that 12th member, I think we ought to make a foray into Big Ten territory and add Northern Illinois. They have a better football program than most give them credit for (ask us here in Kansas, we had to come from behind in the final ten seconds to beat them). They would fit geographically alongside Iowa State and Missouri and give us a presence in the Chicago market. We could even sell recruits from Chi-town on the fact that they can come back to their home state every now and then for games at NIU.

Then we could restore the North and South Divisions of the Big 12. The North Division = Air Force, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Northern Illinois. The South Division = Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Christian, Texas Tech.

Don't talk to me about Boise State and Louisville. They make no sense geographically (although, since I currently live in Louisville, I selfishly would like to see Kansas pay a few visits to Papa John's Cardinal Stadium and the KFC Yum Center). And I don't want BYU in the conference. The last thing any conference needs is a school affiliated with a religious cult.

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