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TCU to join the Big 12

Posted on: October 6, 2011 11:20 am
Edited on: October 6, 2011 4:17 pm
 


Posted by Tom Fornelli


As reported earlier Thursday by CBSSports.com's Brett McMurphy, TCU will be joining the Big 12 conference.

The Big 12 made the announcement official on Thursday morning, saying that it has "authorized negotiations with TCU to become the conference's tenth member." The Big 12 also announced that Missouri did not participate in the vote on the advice of legal counsel.

"These discussions with the Big 12 have huge implications for TCU," said TCU Chancellor Victor Boschini. "It will allow us to return to old rivalries, something our fans and others have been advocating for years. As always, we must consider what's best for TCU and our student-athletes in this ever-changing landscape of collegiate athletics. We look forward to continuing these discussions with the Big 12."

"We’re proud that TCU has been invited to join the Big 12," said Texas AD DeLoss Dodds in a statement. "Their commitment to academics and success on the field make them an excellent fit. With a solid budget and strong financial support, they have been proactive at improving facilities. Their close proximity to all conference institutions makes for a comfortable travel situation."

When Texas A&M was going through the process of leaving the Big 12 for the SEC, for the most part the Big 12 kind of just sat there hoping that Texas A&M wouldn't leave. Which is a role that the Big East seems to have taken over now.

Well, obviously, the Big 12 isn't sitting still anymore. Missouri may not have said that it's leaving just yet, but the writing is on the wall, and this time the Big 12 is being a lot more proactive. Something that Oklahoma President David Boren alluded to in his statement about the addition of TCU.

“TCU is an excellent choice as a new member of the conference," said Boren. "They bring strong athletics and academic credentials and were enthusiastically and unanimously supported by all of the members of the conference. There could be other additions in the future.”

Adding TCU would bring the Big 12 back to 10 schools without Texas A&M, but once Missouri leaves the Big 12 will need to find another replacement. Schools that have been mentioned the most often are BYU, LouisvilleWest Virginia and Cincinnati. Accoring to the Tulsa World's Dave Sittler, Louisville is the next school in line for an invite, but it's possible that three of those four get invites, as the conference has been kicking around the idea of expanding back to 12 schools.

For all our coverage on conference realignment in college football, click here. You can also hear Brett McMurphy discuss TCU's move and what it means for the Big 12 and the Big East on the latest episode of the CBSSports.com College Football Podcast here.
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Since: Feb 8, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 5:18 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

TCU should have been invited the second the Big 12 new that Nebraska or Colorado was leaving. Big 12 needs to add two more teams to be in the South. SMU and Houston would be good to have an all Texas South Division. Missouri is probably gone so the North can be KU, KSU, OU, OSU, ISU, and West Virginia/Louisville. Or go to 16 with Texas, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, OU, OSU, Houston, and SMU as South. KU, KSU, ISU, West Virginia, Louisville, BYU, Boise State, and Air Force as the North. Big East is about to crumble. Cincy and USF are in bad spots because they are the least likely to get invites to another major conference. UCONN has ACC if Big East falls. Rutgers could have ACC invite or Big 10 invite. West Virginia has a good chance for Big 12 and possible outside shot for SEC. Louisville can say the same but more likely the Big 12. I can't see UCONN, USF and Cincy being able to add enough good competion to keep Big East alive for football. A conference with UCONN, Cincy, USF, UCF, ECU, Memphis, Navy, and Villinova just is not that appealing and is not likely to stay and AQ. Sorry Big East but your conference just took a big hit and the Big 12 took a step before you to bounce back. The Big East has to try to get ND if they want any chance to create stability. TCU helps provide that for Big 12 even if Missouri decides to leave. Now the Big 12 needs to commit to getting back to at least 12 and maybe even 16. Stop worrying about Missouri. Add teams with the idea that they are there and have an extra team on your radar if they leave. Don't sit around and wait. Create stability so you can stop being raided. Forget the idea of trying for a hugh homerun like Arkansas because it is not happening but West Virginia and Louisville could. In fact they should have invited those two at the same time as TCU and need to invite BYU before they lose interest. If BYU wants to only come for football then let them. The MVC is filled with adequate basketball schools that could be put in for basketball only and who know maybe some Big East basketball schools or a certain Horizon League school would be interested in basketball ony as well. 



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 5:08 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

Everyone seems to be talking about the Big XII going to 12 teams. Why not be proactive and add to the stability of the conference and go to 16?

How?

Tell Missouri to take a hike. They've publicly flirted with both the Big Ten and SEC, which makes it clear they don't want to be in the Big XII. Let 'em go.

Add Boise State, BYU, Air Force, South Florida, West Virginia, Cincinnati, and Louisville.

You can break the conference into 4 pods:
A) BSU/BYU/USAFA/ISU
B) OU/UT/TTU/OSU
C) Baylor/KU/KSU/TCU
D) WVU/USF/Louisville/UC

It's a nice conference but unfortunately it won't happen.  Not saying that I wouldn't love to see those match-ups.



Since: Mar 19, 2010
Posted on: October 6, 2011 5:08 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

From the LJW...

"Should TCU’s exit from the Big East lead to its collapse, Notre Dame, which competes in the Big East in all sports but football, likely would seek a similar arrangement in another conference. A source with ties to the Big 12 said the conference, which has courted the Irish in the past, would be interested in exploring the idea of adding Notre Dame to the Big 12."


The only downside is this: without misery the conf tourney may not ever be in the Sprint Center anymore. But times are changing & they'll now have to give up T1 & T2 money for 6, count em' yrs for departure. I don't pay taxes in misery anyhow, so life goes on.


Imagine a conf with Louisville, TCU & Notre Dame (hoops)? I can! And muck fizzou!

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Since: Apr 12, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 5:03 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

Everyone seems to be talking about the Big XII going to 12 teams. Why not be proactive and add to the stability of the conference and go to 16?

How?

Tell Missouri to take a hike. They've publicly flirted with both the Big Ten and SEC, which makes it clear they don't want to be in the Big XII. Let 'em go.

Add Boise State, BYU, Air Force, South Florida, West Virginia, Cincinnati, and Louisville.

You can break the conference into 4 pods:
A) BSU/BYU/USAFA/ISU
B) OU/UT/TTU/OSU
C) Baylor/KU/KSU/TCU
D) WVU/USF/Louisville/UC



Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:39 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

The easy scenario for this:

Missouri goes to the SEC

Big 12 adds Cincy, Louisville and West Virginia.

Big 12 North: Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Cincinnati, Louisville and West Virginia
Big 12 South: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor

If you're Oklahoma and Texas, you love this because essentially the RRR game decides the BCS bid for the conference although Okie State is surging. West Virginia will rule the north for a while with perhaps Kansas State challenging them.



Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:35 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

This football fan is glad to see TCU invited to the Big 12.  They fit a lot better than going to the Big East.  Welcome TCU, glad youare coming to the Big 12. This will make for some great football and great rivalries.



Since: Aug 16, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:28 pm
 

TCU to Big 12: Big East on life support

Finally, some news out of the Big 12 that actually makes sense!  TCU is a great addition.  They should have done this last year when Nebraska and Colorado left.  If they would have acted then to equalize revenue sharing and add TCU, maybe A&M would have stayed, the Big 12 would only be looking for 1 more member to get back to 12, and the SEC wouldn't be in the awkward situation of playing with an odd number of teams.

And now with this move, it's time to call in the family of the Big East so they can say their good bye's....




Since: May 25, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:26 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

This at least makes more sense than TCU in the Big East. Of course, it practically puts the final nail in the coffin of the Big East as a BCS football conference. With Syracuse, Pitt and TCU, the Big East has to be scrambling but there is no one out there to raise your status unless maybe Boise State, but that makes as much sense as TCU.
The Big East will once again try to scrape up a few CUSA teams, but it can be taken seriously as a BCS conference. I personally don't think it is now. Trading out the likes of the three aforementioned teams for the likes of ECU, UCF, Houston or SMU, is not an upgrade and not enough to keep a BCS bid.
As for the Big 12, the addition of TCU is something they should have done as soon as Nebraska and Colorado bolted. It's a year late, but at least they did it. Now, the conference needs to look for two more and get back 12. That number is more solid and now is the time to act to beat the Big East or someone else to the punch. BYU brings value in all sports and a solid national TV audience. I actually like Air Force more than Houston. It gets the conference back in the state of Colorado and a military academy is always a nice addition.
One reach is Boise State. If it is all about football, there probably isn't a better non-BCS program out there right now than BSU. However, that is about all they bring. 



Since: Oct 6, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:23 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

You quote the commissioner as saying "geography is important" to the Big 12, then suggest BYU will be added.  Look at a map.  If the Big 12 is the "lower 48", then BYU is Alaska.  It is a two day drive, at best, from Provo to the nearest Big 12 member. 




Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 4:22 pm
 

TCU to join the Big 12

Big East football moves closer to extinction. Someone just figure out where Missouri is going so this can be done with. Missouri goes to the Big Ten? SEC takes West Virginia. Missouri goes to the SEC? Big 12 can take Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia. Big East would be left with UConn, Rutgers and South Florida and we know people would want UConn and Rutgers. Bye bye Big East football.


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