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Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

Posted on: October 14, 2011 1:44 pm
Edited on: October 14, 2011 5:25 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

After Texas A&M decided to leave the Big 12 for the SEC, it put the future of the Aggies annual showdown with Texas on Thanksgiving Day in jeopardy. For its part, Texas A&M has shown a willingness to continue the game, but Texas hasn't been nearly as willing. Well, that doesn't mean Texas A&M isn't going to stop trying.

Sure, the two schools have broken up, but that doesn't mean they can't get together for a cup of coffee, right? You know, just to talk.

According to a tweet from Kirk Bohls, Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin has authorized athletic director Bill Byrne to ask Texas out for that coffee date.

In another tweet Bohls shares that Loftin also said the game doesn't have to be on Thanksgiving if that doesn't work for Texas, and that A&M would be willing to play the game in September. "We're open to a date that meets all our needs," said Loftin.

Whether or not Texas will want to continue the tradition remains to be seen, but personally I know I'm hoping that the Longhorns agree to it. With so much history between the two schools, it'd be a shame to see their annual meeting come to an end, even if it's no longer a conference game.

UPDATE: According to Brent Zwerneman, Texas has already told Texas A&M they don't have room on the schedule until at least 2018

Since: Aug 12, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2011 9:47 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

Soubds Like Texas is SCARED!

Since: Apr 5, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:17 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

These comments are just ignorant and show a complete lack of understanding of college football.  UT is the team of the state of Texas, A&M has never had state wide appeal and it will get worse in the SEC as they will not be playing other Texas schools annually, they will be playing schools from the deep south.  The only place you will get the coffee talk about your team vs our is in houston that is loaded with LSU fans. Mike Sherman said he wanted the SEC so he could compete better in recruiting in Lousiana!  Not Texas, because he knows he can't compete with UT or OU for Texas recruits. So A&M I hope you enjoy beings a mid level team in the SEC, with kids from Lousiana playing at Mississipi and Vanderbilt. That will be some great coffee talk with your Texas football buddies in the office.   And what do you mean UT has no rivalries, that is too funny, OU and we have played Baylor and TCU as long as TAMU.  We actually upgraded the Big 12 with the loss of TAMU and the gain of TCU in BCS appearances for the Big 12, and TCU actually won one.

Since: Apr 5, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:07 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

The earliest we would probably see UT vs TAMU again is 2018, barring a bowl game.  UT already has commitments for their out of conference schedule through 2018,  They have committed to playing Arkansas, BYU, Notre Dame, Mississippi and USC plus some cupcakes in 2012 to 2017.  They committed to USC and Notre Dame through 2020, so i doubt they would want another tough non-conference games those years.  I expect to see renewal of the lone-star shootout in 2021.  And who cares, TAMU moved out of the house, but they still want to have dinner there?  TAMU has done nothing but point the finger at UT as the bad guys, but the truth is they knew they needed to get out of the Big 12 to have a chance to be an elite program.  They just should have left with class and not all the finger pointing. Its typical A&M.

Since: Feb 28, 2009
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:06 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

Anyone who thinks that the game is more important to Texas A&M and NOT to Texas is out of touch with reality.  Texas is ONLY as big as it's rivalries.  Without Texas A&M and Oklahoma, where are the rivalry games for Texas?  No, I disagree, Texas is going to "punish" A&M by not wishing to schedule them for inane reasons.  They are perfectly able to schedule A&M, they just don't want to.

Texas is all about Big 12 and NOTHING else.  At least A&M is attempting to create a sense of fairness and normalcy for themselves.  The REAL ISSUE is you Big 12'ers don't get it.  Football is bigger than the state of Texas and the giant ego that Texas carries around on it's back.  As Texas A&M and the SEC continue to steamroll through the rest of College Football, Texas will continue to try to build itself back into a relevant program.  As it is, Texas and the Big 12 are being left behind, just like the not-so-big 10 and the Pac-12.

Say what you want about A&M....the reality is they got tired of the insanity that is Texas and it's attempts to continually be the top dog in everything.  That kind of mentality is short-term and you can see what it has done to the Big 12.  Texas and Texas alone is responsible for the demise of the Big 8 and the Big 12.  The handwriting is on the wall for that league.  Now that you're adding "also-rans" into the mix, Texas is assured of staying the top dog for at least 2 more years.  Who gives a roaring rip about Texas?  In the end they will have to pay the price for their ego and it's aftermath. 

I applaud Oklahoma for putting pressure on Texas and for A&M working to determine it's own future.  As a proud member of the SEC, they will thrive and flourish.  As an EQUAL member of that league, they will have many more opportunities than being a member of the Big 12.  Texas NEVER would have gone to the Pac-12 or the Big 10......if they can't be the "Big Boy", they ain't playin....that was just smoke and mirrors to maintain control.  In the end, they've lost their luster and their ego is bruised. 

I say, don't schedule A&M......then we'll see just how relevant Texas becomes.  Texas needs A&M more than A&M needs Texas!!!!!      

Since: Mar 3, 2007
Posted on: October 15, 2011 8:03 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

Tradition is overrated. It's something for sports columnists to complain about losing. Where is the push for short basketball uniforms or Penn State returning to pink-and-black uniforms? Texas A&M's fan base is excited about the move to the SEC. Even if they lose the Turkey Day game with Texas, it will make it that much sweeter whenever they face the Horns in a bowl game. The 2000 Cotton Bowl was just that sweet for older Arkansas fans.<br /><br />Given enough time, even the A&M fans who want the series to continue will notice a strange new phenomenon. Young fans won't care that much about Texas anymore. They'll be looking forward to the Alabama and LSU games. They'll be looking forward to Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee playing in College Station in cross-divisional games.

Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2011 7:49 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

Let's look at the Texas non-con schedule.  2012 consists of Wyoming, New Mexico, and at Ole Miss.  In 2013 they have New Mexico State, Ole Miss, and at BYU.  It is not until 2014 that Texas plays two decent teams, scheduling North Texas, BYU and at Arkansas.  In 2015 they host Rice and Cal after opening the season at Notre Dame.  In 2016 reverse Cal and Notre Dame.  Starting in 2017, they play a home and home with USC.  So starting in 2014, Texas will have it's work cut out for themselves.  You cannot expect Texas to schedule three tough non-conference games in the same season.  The SEC and Big 12 meet in the Cotton Bowl.  If Texas and A&M are both good enough, they can play each other in that game.  If not, who really cares if they play each other or not?  Certainly not anyone outside the State of Texas.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: October 15, 2011 6:02 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

This is totally sad for fans of both teams. One interesting consequence may be that TAMU becomes locally less relevant. When all of your games are against teams that are not local, you become as important to people from other schools as say TCU. You will not have any games coming up against those you work with, go to church with or live next to. For a fan base that LOVES to mix it up with rivals, they will not have rivals to talk to where they live. I hope that the rivalry comes back but there will most likely be a break for a while.

Since: Oct 15, 2011
Posted on: October 15, 2011 5:55 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

Most played rivalry in the history of college football.  Shame.  Without Texas to hate, what will we Aggies DO?

Well, there's always LSU.

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2011 2:27 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

Why in God's name would Texas bend over backwards to help the Aggies?

The "anywhere anytime" approach simply will not work.  Texas won't be goaded into scheduling the Aggies unless it benefits Texas.

The game is far more important in one direction.  It is huge for the Aggies.  It is not quite as important to the Longhorns.

Texas will make sure it 100% favors Texas.  There are no more favors for the Aggies

Sure, Texas probably will schedule it.

It will be on the Longhorn Network as that certainly fits the anytime, anyplace , and anywhere boasting.

..... anytime anyplace anywhere.... as the Aggies say they will do...

anytime, anyplace...anywhere

Then we will see the Aggies posturing fold like a wet napkin.

Since: Sep 19, 2010
Posted on: October 15, 2011 1:54 am

Lone Star Showdown may survive, but when?

Why would Texas want to still play A$M? The Ags have shifted all there focus to be in the SEc, and now you want Texas to jump at the "We'll play anytime, anywhere". Well you gave up that right when you went crying to the SEC, so stop trying to show the country that ya'll are not going to be the ones responsible for ending this rivilary. A$M knew they were going to lose the Texas game if they left, so take the money and shut up! Your gone and no Texas school wants to have you on there schedule, Good Luck with Alabama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, oh and send a post card from the edge.

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