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Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:06 pm
Edited on: October 26, 2011 3:17 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

On Tuesday's Brett McMurphy reported that the Big 12 had invited West Virginia to join the conference in the event that Missouri left for the SEC, and that West Virginia had accepted the invitation. A report that was confirmed by multiple outlets throughout the day.

Well, this is the world of conference realigment, and in the world of conference realignment things happen and then don't happen before happening again or not. Then you wake up in an alley somewhere with no recollection of how you got there or why you're suddenly missing a kidney.

So of course there was a report on Wednesday from the West Virginia Metro News saying that the done deal may not be a done deal after all, and that Louisvillecould be replacing Missouri in the Big 12.
As of late yesterday afternoon, WVU had received a verbal invitation to the Big 12 and had accepted. Plans were in the works for a news conference Wednesday to make the announcement.

But sources say the process hit a “bump in the road” last night.  WVU was apparently notified by the Big 12 that it needed “more information” from WVU and that there would be a vote by the Big 12 Board, perhaps on Monday.

There is speculation that the “bump” was a push by Louisville.
So what's the problem? Well, it's not so much that Louisville made some kind of last minute presentation to the Big 12 or anything as much as it's the fact that the schools aren't all in agreement that West Virginia is the better choice, as Brett McMurphy documented on Wednesday.

You may remember that on Monday, while one Big 12 administrator was talking about how much better West Virginia would be for the Big 12 than Missouri, another conference administrator was of the belief that Louisville was the better choice.

I know, the fact that the members of the Big 12 don't all agree on something shocks me too.

Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:45 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

In all of this conference realingment, my opinion is that Geography should matter the most (behind money & TV Markets Of Course).  In a perfect world, Mizzou Stays in the Big 12. They than add BYU and Lousiville to get back to 12.

The Big 12 could also consider Memphis.

I think WVU is a better fit in the SEC, ACC or Big 10 (although the BIG 10 & ACC prefer academic institutions).

The SEC also still needs a 14th team -Lousiville, WVU or Memphis also makes sense here.

It does appear that the Big East is done under any and all scenarios.

Maybe it is a good idea for the BIG East to focus on a Basketball only conference, while the idea of the MWC, Conference USA, and Big East all merging for a 28-32 team conference sounds crazy, it may work out.

It's all getting crazy and I just wish these conferences would make their minds up so we all know what the heck is gonna happen.

Funny though - West Virginia keeps on getting flirted with - just to be left behind.

L"Ville is a better choice for the Big 12 if they are choosing between L'Ville and WVU.

Since: Apr 22, 2009
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:37 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

The Big 12 is DEAD, the Big East is on life support, each waiting for Dr. Big 10 to come and fix the problem.  ND is waiting to be asked to join and Big 10 told them we asked you once now you have to ask us.  Sorry about WVU.

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:34 pm

Big 12 and Booze

There is nothing in the bi-laws that states that a school cannot sell alcohol at games, matter a fact, Colorado used to sell Coors during games.  The schools ban it individually, primarily to reduce binge drinking issues at games.  Booze wouldn't be a factor in choosing any of the schools.

Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:34 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Mark my words.  The Big East is finished.  They might "survive" as a conference and some group of schools will call themselves "Big East" but it won't ever be the same.

I was thinking that it might be a smart move, competition-wise, for Louisville to join Syracuse and Pittsburgh by jumping to the ACC.  If they do that, the ACC would only need to add one school to be a 16-team, 2-division setup.  And if I'm the ACC, I've got my eye on Temple as the 16th team if Connecticut doesn't jump as was rumored a few weeks ago.  Obviously, UConn is the better choice, but Temple would give the ACC a pipeline into the Philadelphia market where they don't have a thing right now.

You could end up with something like this...
ACC Southern Division
Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, North Carolina State, and Wake Forest
ACC Northern Division
Boston College, Louisville, Maryland, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, and Virginia Tech plus Connecticut or Temple

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:33 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Dude I went to UL,  PPJ is not on campus.  They do allow alcohol sales though.

Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:30 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

I would laugh so hard at all the West Virginia fans that are already calling the Big East losers.

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:25 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

WVU sells alcohol in the stadium now too

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:24 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

WVU started selling alcohol in the stadium this year.

Since: Sep 22, 2009
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:22 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Ha!  Well stated my friend.  I'd like to add the notes passed between kids that ask "Will you go with me?  Check box for yes or no".  This seems to be about as ludicrous as the cakewalk that's been going on between the power brokers of higher ed.

For the love of all that's pleasing in the world, could we stop the rumors????   What happened to the days when media outlets reported information based on fact?  This crap is worse than a bunch of giddy 4th graders chattering about who like who and who will heart this person or that person.

Since: May 13, 2007
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:20 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Don't know what went on behind closed doors, but texas tech football coach was on ESPN last night and made sense on why Louisville was a better choice if it came down to the two.  It's all about location.  Transportation for all sports to UL campus for Big 12 schools are of course going to be closer to UL just because WVU is further east, but the complications to get a team to Morgantown from the midwest is greater when you think about busing.  Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understood the interview last night, teams would have to fly halfway across country, land in Pitt, and then bus 1 1/2 hours to Morgantown inorder to get to campus games.  Coming from a UK fan familiar with Louisville, you literally fly into Louisville and you leave the airport and are like 5 mins to Papa Johns Stadium or campus for any other sporting events.  While I agree that WVU brings a lot more history and tradition than louisville, if the Big 12 sees these two programs as a close call, all the extra money that could be saved by not having to transport all the non-football athletes to the east coast and bus into morgantown has to come into play.  Just my thoughts.

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