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Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:06 pm
Edited on: October 26, 2011 3:17 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

On Tuesday's Brett McMurphy reported that the Big 12 had invited West Virginia to join the conference in the event that Missouri left for the SEC, and that West Virginia had accepted the invitation. A report that was confirmed by multiple outlets throughout the day.

Well, this is the world of conference realigment, and in the world of conference realignment things happen and then don't happen before happening again or not. Then you wake up in an alley somewhere with no recollection of how you got there or why you're suddenly missing a kidney.

So of course there was a report on Wednesday from the West Virginia Metro News saying that the done deal may not be a done deal after all, and that Louisvillecould be replacing Missouri in the Big 12.
As of late yesterday afternoon, WVU had received a verbal invitation to the Big 12 and had accepted. Plans were in the works for a news conference Wednesday to make the announcement.

But sources say the process hit a “bump in the road” last night.  WVU was apparently notified by the Big 12 that it needed “more information” from WVU and that there would be a vote by the Big 12 Board, perhaps on Monday.

There is speculation that the “bump” was a push by Louisville.
So what's the problem? Well, it's not so much that Louisville made some kind of last minute presentation to the Big 12 or anything as much as it's the fact that the schools aren't all in agreement that West Virginia is the better choice, as Brett McMurphy documented on Wednesday.

You may remember that on Monday, while one Big 12 administrator was talking about how much better West Virginia would be for the Big 12 than Missouri, another conference administrator was of the belief that Louisville was the better choice.

I know, the fact that the members of the Big 12 don't all agree on something shocks me too.

Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:20 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Big East schools that allow alcohol sales:

Cincinnati (on campus)
Louisville (on campus)
Pittsburgh (currently Big East)
Rutgers (from what I have seen)
South Florida

Non-Big East schools:

Boise St. (saw this on TV, but I cannot confirm)

As for being an NCAA's actually a rule set by each conference.

Since: Oct 12, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:17 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

I thought that they applied to the ACC and SEC and were rejected. 
WVU never "applied" for either conference.  WVU let it be known to both conferences that they were interested in joining, yes, but they never applied for membership.  According to what I have heard (albeit from WVU sources) is that the "rejections" were more of a soft maybe, in other words, not right now but possibly someday.  With regards to the ACC there are other rumors that some combination of Va Tech, UVA, UNC, and Duke refuse to consider WVU.  Who really knows other than those directly involved? 

 Not all of the Big East schools allow alcohol sales. I work as a beer vendor for the University of Cincinnati. WVU fans always comment about how they have to sneak alcohol into home games at WVU.
WVU approved beer sales in the stadium this summer.  Beer has been on tap at Mountaineer Field all season long.  What ever point(s) of contention there may be, that is not one of them.

In Morgantown they are reporting that no one knows what exactly happened but there are two different speculative rumors floating arround.

1 - Lawers for the Big 12 got involved and requested/insisted on more due dillegence from the conference big-wigs before signing off on the deal.

2 - Outside sources have gotten involved and are trying to intervene on the behalf of Louisville, specifically KY senator Mitch McConnell.

Since: Mar 26, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:15 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

They want Missou to go so that they can invite WV Louisville and UH?!?!

Since: Oct 11, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:06 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

It is like doing the Hokey-Pokey.  First you are in...then you are out!  If in fact Louisville is doing this for less ESPN behind this also!<br />

Since: Sep 23, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:05 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

I would really prefer that Mizzou stays in the Big 12. If they leave, then I prefer that the Big 12 adds some school from the home region, such as Houston. But if the Big 12 is going to make the mistake of adding a school as far away from the home region as WV, then they might as well add two more schools from the new region, such as Louisville and Cincinnati, or maybe one of those and Houston. The Big 12 is perfectly viable with ten schools, but I don't think the league presidents can resist the urge to expand further and make more money with the next TV contract...

Since: Dec 23, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:05 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

1) Alchohol sales
If the Big 12 is even considering Louisville as an alternative to WVU, this cannot be the issue.

Louisville sells Alchohol at home games, and UC's Nippert is one of three on campus stadiums that were grandfathered for Alchohol sales before and after prohibition.

It is funny that folks keep saying this about WVU with regard to the Big 12.  I would think alchohol would be required for Big 12 admittance.  I was wondering if that were one of the problems the Big 12 had with BYU.

Since: Apr 12, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:04 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

This is a disgrace just like the whole process has been since BC and Miami started this whole dance.  This isn't the fault of WVU....its all about ESPN and controlling TV markets.  I just think they should invite WVU, Louisville and USF and be done with it. 

Since: Feb 21, 2010
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:04 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

No UofL's Papa Johns Cardinal Staduim is on Campus and sells alcohol

Since: Feb 21, 2010
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:02 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Oh C!A!R!D!S CARDS. But yeah I agree add Louisville and West Virginia so we can get this over with and Keep Missouri

I mean a Big 12 with Missouri, UL and West V is the second bes football confernce and second best basketball conference.

Since: Jan 29, 2009
Posted on: October 26, 2011 1:00 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Regarding alcohol sales, I believe that is an NCAA rule.  On campus venues are not allowed to sell alcohol.  Take UConn as an example.  For baseketball, when games are played at Gampel Pavilion, there is no alcohol.  However, for game played in Hartford, there's booze.  The same with football.  When they used to play on Memorial Stadium, no alcohol.  Now that they play at Rentschler Field, alcohol can be sold.

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