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Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:06 pm
Edited on: October 26, 2011 3:17 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

On Tuesday CBSSports.com's Brett McMurphy reported that the Big 12 had invited West Virginia to join the conference in the event that Missouri left for the SEC, and that West Virginia had accepted the invitation. A report that was confirmed by multiple outlets throughout the day.

Well, this is the world of conference realigment, and in the world of conference realignment things happen and then don't happen before happening again or not. Then you wake up in an alley somewhere with no recollection of how you got there or why you're suddenly missing a kidney.

So of course there was a report on Wednesday from the West Virginia Metro News saying that the done deal may not be a done deal after all, and that Louisvillecould be replacing Missouri in the Big 12.
As of late yesterday afternoon, WVU had received a verbal invitation to the Big 12 and had accepted. Plans were in the works for a news conference Wednesday to make the announcement.

But sources say the process hit a “bump in the road” last night.  WVU was apparently notified by the Big 12 that it needed “more information” from WVU and that there would be a vote by the Big 12 Board, perhaps on Monday.

There is speculation that the “bump” was a push by Louisville.
So what's the problem? Well, it's not so much that Louisville made some kind of last minute presentation to the Big 12 or anything as much as it's the fact that the schools aren't all in agreement that West Virginia is the better choice, as Brett McMurphy documented on Wednesday.

You may remember that on Monday, while one Big 12 administrator was talking about how much better West Virginia would be for the Big 12 than Missouri, another conference administrator was of the belief that Louisville was the better choice.

I know, the fact that the members of the Big 12 don't all agree on something shocks me too.
Comments

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:59 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

The Metro News story cites a NY Times Story, the NY Times story cites "a person with direct knowledge".
I'd rather see something concrete.



Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:52 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Cincinnati is not an attractive option for the Big 12. They may have a decent program, but Nippert Stadium only seats 35,000, and there is no room to expand it. Heck, they can't even sell it out this year. People throw out Paul Brown Stadium as an alternative, but that has backfired. UC hosted Oklahoma last year at PBS, and the game only had 50,000 in attendance, whereas the stadium holds over 62,000. Two weeks ago, UC hosted Louisville, and only 45,000 showed up. Mike Brown is extremely reluctant to allow UC games to be played there for this simple reason......the games just aren't profitable enough for him.



Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:46 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

This is becoming a freaking joke.....  if the BIG12 can't decide on who to invite...than Missouri is definitely doing the right thing by getting out of this unstable conference.

Big12 should have nothing to think about....add Louisville, West Virginia, and Cinncy when Mizzou leaves.

Or is the "rumor" beign leaked out because Missouri is reconsidering leaving for the SEC?    Maybe Mizzou wants to stay and now the BIG12 is pushing WVA back?

This realignment talk is getting really freaking annoying....

Thank God the Cardinals are in the WORLD SERIES....  CARDS in 7 games!



Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:46 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

The same "bump" that kept WV from joining the SEC

1) Alchohol sales
2) improved facilities
3) TV Market
4) community improvements



Not all of the Big East schools allow alcohol sales. I work as a beer vendor for the University of Cincinnati. WVU fans always comment about how they have to sneak alcohol into home games at WVU.



Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:45 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Any sane person would of realized the issues when the SEC was within reach. IF the WV brass really wanted to put that program on the map they would of jumped at the chance to join the SEC. 
I thought that they applied to the ACC and SEC and were rejected. 



Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:44 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

How about the B12 stops all of this and just goes to 12 teams!  Take Louisville, West Virgina and someone else (maybe Cincy?).  Rutgers and UCONN go to the ACC

Then the BE football conference could die and we all stop talking about this crap.


Sorry USF i think you might get screwed in this.





Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:41 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

And Missouri has not even officially left the Big 12. Why doesn't the Big 12 just go ahead and add Cincy, Louisville and WVU to get to 12?  Sources tell me that, Notre Dame will join the Mountain West, USC will leave the PAC 12 and Kentucky is joining the Big Ten.  I have no facts but, that's what my sources say.  Sometimes I think their sources are message boards.



Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:40 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Of course, there's no accounting for the "greed factor", but as I posted yesterday, the best play for the Big 12 is to take Louisville, WVU and Cincinnati. That gives them 12 teams, all in good sized markets, with good quality football and basketball programs.
It also gives these three schools, who already have rivalries established, two other rivals that their fans can easily travel to a game to see.
Where does the Louisville or WVU fan go to see a game without adding these two other teams? Iowa, Texas? Is there any cosideration these guys give at all to the fans? Wait, don't answer, I know the answer to that one!



Since: Mar 6, 2007
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:38 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

The same "bump" that kept WV from joining the SEC

1) Alchohol sales
2) improved facilities
3) TV Market
4) community improvements


The WV fans don't want to acknowledge the issues and always see the WV program as one of the elite but in reality they are not and it is showing in the entire conference mumbo jumbo. 

Any sane person would of realized the issues when the SEC was within reach. IF the WV brass really wanted to put that program on the map they would of jumped at the chance to join the SEC.  WV wants to continue to beat up on weak opponents and keep its name on the map like Boise by beating weak teams, they don't want competition. 





Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:33 pm
 

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

For the love of all that's pleasing in the world, could we stop the rumors????
I hear ya. ;) But they write it because we read it. Rumors = hits = advertising views = revenues. Like conference expansion, the rumors about conference expansion are fueled by money. That's just the deal.


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