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Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Posted on: October 26, 2011 12:06 pm
Edited on: October 26, 2011 3:17 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

On Tuesday's Brett McMurphy reported that the Big 12 had invited West Virginia to join the conference in the event that Missouri left for the SEC, and that West Virginia had accepted the invitation. A report that was confirmed by multiple outlets throughout the day.

Well, this is the world of conference realigment, and in the world of conference realignment things happen and then don't happen before happening again or not. Then you wake up in an alley somewhere with no recollection of how you got there or why you're suddenly missing a kidney.

So of course there was a report on Wednesday from the West Virginia Metro News saying that the done deal may not be a done deal after all, and that Louisvillecould be replacing Missouri in the Big 12.
As of late yesterday afternoon, WVU had received a verbal invitation to the Big 12 and had accepted. Plans were in the works for a news conference Wednesday to make the announcement.

But sources say the process hit a “bump in the road” last night.  WVU was apparently notified by the Big 12 that it needed “more information” from WVU and that there would be a vote by the Big 12 Board, perhaps on Monday.

There is speculation that the “bump” was a push by Louisville.
So what's the problem? Well, it's not so much that Louisville made some kind of last minute presentation to the Big 12 or anything as much as it's the fact that the schools aren't all in agreement that West Virginia is the better choice, as Brett McMurphy documented on Wednesday.

You may remember that on Monday, while one Big 12 administrator was talking about how much better West Virginia would be for the Big 12 than Missouri, another conference administrator was of the belief that Louisville was the better choice.

I know, the fact that the members of the Big 12 don't all agree on something shocks me too.

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 10:38 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

The Big 12 is a mess.  B12 faithfulls somehow act like all of this is good or they will be better off? Hard to believe that Big 12 is actually wanting Louisville, WV or even Cincinnati.  No offense to any of those schools.

Whatever is done now will be a major pain and will impact 1000s of innocent athletes. I feel sorry for all of the other sports teams.

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 10:35 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Does the Big 12 have any idea whats going on.No wonder the teams left 2 years ago,there like the Key Stone Cops.

Since: Aug 17, 2008
Posted on: October 26, 2011 10:29 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

The only problem with your idea is that it makes too much sense. There's no place in college football for anything that makes sense. I mean, really, we're talking about a sport where the champion is determined by voting and a computer program.

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: October 26, 2011 10:13 pm

Rumors and rumors of rumors

 As I noted in the West Virginia story, they are a fine school but in the geographic region. Louisville would be a much better travel distance for the current Big XII. Should the league decide based upon travel? Consider the non-revenue sports participants for each school would miss three class days to play one game at West Virginia, traveling by commercial transportation, and that becomes a factor. Of course football and a little bit basketball drives the first consideration. But there are thousands of student-athletes affected by the decision.

As far as Louisville goes, not so fast either. The rumors that have been trumpeted by the media over the past two and a half years concerning conference realignments have mosly been wrong. This one is still way premature as the league will not vote on adding a team unless they decide to go to twelve teams or unless they receive formal notice from Missouri. It is reasonable to assume that discussions have been held with WVU, Louisville, BYU and Cincinnati. Those discussions have not yet lead to any decisions that binds either a school or the league. So reader beware.

I am not interested in getting caught up in which school will bring better competition. I am more interested in who feels right to belong in the Big XII and will help return it to stability. All of these schools (and perhaps a couple of others) are strong athletically and academically. Any of them will be competitive in basketball and perhaps in football. Over a decade or so of recruiting for and playing in the Big XII, instead of the Big East or Independent status, the recruits will help raise the teams to be accomplished in all sports.

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: October 26, 2011 10:04 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Big 12 North:  K-State, Kansas, West Virginia, Louisville, Iowa State, Boise
Big 12 South:  OU, OSU, Texas, Tech, TCU, Baylor 

We need 12....Can at least 1 AQ conference resemble it's name? 
Louisville's football program will get better quickly with the Big 12 exposure.
Boise will quickly back pedal on their Mountain West commitment if they get this offer.
Make it happen Neinas!!! 

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 9:25 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Looks like OU is not calling the shots in the the Big XII and not UT!

Leave it up to the Big XII to mess this up. Going back on their word -Have the no honor?

Since: Sep 27, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 9:00 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12


The Big 12 should invite Louisville, Boise State, and BYU. Stick Boise and BYU with the Texas schools in a west division, and I State, the Okie schools and Kansas schools with Louisville. And they should kick Missouri out rather they can get into the SEC or not.  

Since: Oct 25, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 8:55 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

Football record in last dozen games between Virginia Tech and WVU: VT 9 wins, WVU 3 wins.

Since: Jan 20, 2009
Posted on: October 26, 2011 8:55 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

@drb107: Man, I don't usually respond to other people's posts, but feel compelled here. Your statement that WVU going Independent would somehow be beneficial is misguided at best. The top part of your post concerning Virginia Tech was fairly accurate in my opinion, and I have no feelings for WVU one way or the other. But, Notre Dame, as the only other FBS Independent, hasn't faired too well without a conference and they have a special arrangement with the BCS. First, if they are in the Top 8, the get an Automatic Bid. Second, certain bowls are allowed to pick ND in lieu of a Big East team (ND's other athletic programs are mostly in the Big East.) West Virginia would never be able to get a deal like that. I'm no fan of the Irish but they have a huge national fanbase that dwarfs WVU's and they also travel much better and the BCS Bowl Presidents love them. I don't mean to make this post about Notre Dame, but I'm just saying they are in a very unique situation as an Independent (they even receive $1 million on years when they don't go to a BCS bowl as part of their agreement) and most rational people know they would be better off if they swallowed their pride and joined the Big Ten or another major conference with an AQ Bid. West Virginia has to be in a major conference to have a realistic shot at the "silly BCS" as you so eloguently put it.

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: October 26, 2011 8:43 pm

Not so fast on West Virginia to the Big 12

I have informed my PA Senator Toomey and Representative Gerlach that Mitch McConnell's actions have cost the Republican party my vote in every election until his actions are investigated.

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