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Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Posted on: October 27, 2011 2:12 pm
Edited on: October 27, 2011 5:34 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Hey, remember three days ago, when we told you that per Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity, the SEC wasn't looking at a 14-team schedule for the 2012 season?

HAHAHA just kidding, folks:

As reported by the Birmingham News's Jon Solomon, yes, that's Mike Slive telling reporters at SEC basketball media days that McGarity was (as the kids say) full of it. (Slive only added that he had nothing else to add.) Since we're pretty sure there's no better source on this than the commissioner himself, it's now safe to assume that Missouri has not been ruled out from competing in the SEC in 2012 and that the league is prepared to make the necessary accomodations if the Tigers want to make the leap as soon as next season.

That, of course, was how Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton had previously described his school's potential jump, saying recently it would be "applicable to the next year."

That assertion has been challenged by everyone from McGarity to Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas to plenty of other anonymously sourced reports that have put Mizzou in the SEC in 2013 at the earliest. That makes more sense than the alternative, since the rearranging of 2012 schedules at this late date on both the Big 12's end (with a giant Missouri-sized hole in their slates) and the SEC's would be a logistical nightmare.

But it may be a nightmare both the Tigers and the SEC are willing to deal with, if it means the former dodges a lame-duck final season in the Big 12 and the latter avoids the awkwardness of a 13-team schedule. With Slive now openly admitting for the first time that the SEC is poised to go to 14 teams and the Big 12 actively pursuing the addition of one or more new members, it seems likelier than ever Missouri's defection could become official in a matter of days rather than weeks.

Will that be soon enough to leap through the rapidly-closing 2012 scheduling window? That still seems unlikely, but if Mike Slive himself is open to the possibility, the possibility is no doubt open.


Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 11:13 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules


PLAYOFFS!!! Who need playoffs...

LSU vs Okla State
Alabama vs Stanford
Arkansas vs Boise State

Right now!!! Lets end the nonsense. Just so you ACC people are not left out, stick Clemson anywhere you want. 

Folks we are talking just one half of the SEC and the Defending National Champions is Cam Reloading; while everyone else is talking Bevo League, Travel, Geographical similarities, Academics and AAU.  So you know, A degree from ANY SEC school like it is from ANY Division I NCAA school is a lifetime asset. I thought this was not

Yall don't hear me though.

Go LSU beat Bama,  Hogs will come down to Baton Rouge for Big Game of the Year II.

Since: Jul 22, 2009
Posted on: October 27, 2011 10:26 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Hell yea, I'm all for getting Vandy and Mizzou in the West and sending Bama and Auburn East.

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 9:46 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules


Who arse do I need to kiss to get your plan in play.  Arkansas would be in SEC Champ most every year until Petrino retires!!! I love it but it is pipe dream for Razorback Nation.

I think moving Vandy West and Bama & Auburn East is what they will do.  That too is better for us but LSU will get it's fair share of Trophys.

Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 9:10 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

North/South... interesting way to do it. I heard one suggestion of moving Vandy to the West and Bama and Auburn to the East. Either way I think the SEC has really put itself in position to make a huge splash when the next round of expansion happens. 16 will come at some point and those schools will probably come from the pool of Clemson, Florida State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Virginia Tech, and who knows who else.
Adding A&M and Missouri accomplishes 2 things: TV markets and academics since both are AAU schools.

Since: Aug 12, 2006
Posted on: October 27, 2011 9:06 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Most likley result would be both Bama and Auburn go east Division. Moving A&M and Mizzu to west. LSU is loving this because that means barring a mirical They will be west champs every year. While Bama, Auburn UGA, And Fl KILL EACH OTHER FOR EAST CROWN.  I say do away east and west go N and south. IE

SEC North

CD   A & M
Kentucky CD Florida
Vandy     CD  Auburn
Tennesse   CD Bama
SC     &nb
sp;     CD UGA
Ark     &n
bsp;    CD LSU
Ole Miss     CD Miss State

SEC South

Miss State 
Alabama    &nbs
Texas A & M

That way only cross div rival lost is Egg Bowl

*CD   means Cross division Rival.     

Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:57 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

It will happen but I think the main hold up is the departure date and money. Deaton said when he got full power to make a move the decision would be for the upcoming season. Neinas said Missouri would be in the Big 12 for 2012-13 so you see where this is headed. They started negotiations in public and are probably trying to fine tune whatever deal there is. Also the Big 12 will need a replacement team so it can avoid having its TV contract voided. This is why we're seeing all the talk about West Virginia/Louisville. The Big 12 will move quickly to fill the vacancy that would take it down to 9 teams. So it is a puzzle that needs to put together. I don't understand why the Big 12 is fighting over 10 teams when the most logical move seems to be go to 12. You get a championship game which means more money for the conference. Unless there is some sort of plot to go to 10 now so teams can pig out while they wait for 2 more to come on board. The Big East presents its own issue: it has already stated it will hold Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the 27 months notice requirement. The Big 12 might be facing the same issue with WVU/Louisville. This is why it would make sense to take Cincy, Louisville and West Virginia--collapse the conference. I don't think the Big 12 wants to wait 2 years for teams to show up because with 9 teams, its TV contract is null and void.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:56 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

wahtiger, you make a great point about Miss St. being Alabama's little brother school.  When I was working on my master's in Tuscaloosa, there were Mississippi State would-be faculty with B.A.'s and B.S.'s coming over to TTown to get education doctorates without getting master's degrees.  Don't know if that's still true now or not, but the two schools are in very close proximity.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:47 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Thanks wahtiger.  I will check out the site.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:46 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

pyshie, here are some articles about academics and realignment.  Boise State absolutely did not qualify academically for the PAC-10/12; that was written about on these boards for quite a long time about 3 years ago.

From the Wall Street Journal, something about the poor academics of some schools in the Big 12 (which surprised me): 

From a BYU publication about how so very few teams qualify for the Big 10 conference because of their academics (Missouri qualifies for the Big 10):


An article from Arizona Daily Wildcat on the NCAA tightening academic standards for teams going to bowl games in tandem with all of this alignment process.

So, why would a conference add a team with lesser academics that might be able to win in football but then not qualify academically for a bowl game?  

Since: Jul 23, 2009
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:43 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Look on and you will see why bama really dosent want Auburn to move to the east.1st they are worried that they will lose the UT game while AU being in the east could keep bama as thier cross division team and thier other rival UGA will be in the same divisions.2nd bama is very concerned that Auburn playing in the east would boost recruting playing UF.UT and USC yearly.(this is really an issue with bama and you can find articles on that support that).3rd they are scared Auburn would go east and have tons of sucsess in that division while bama is fighting it out in the west.Auburns president has already publicly stated that they would move to the east if need be.And of course bamas real little brother school Miss. St. will follow thier leaders as they did in the Newton scandle last year.

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