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Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Posted on: October 27, 2011 2:12 pm
Edited on: October 27, 2011 5:34 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Hey, remember three days ago, when we told you that per Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity, the SEC wasn't looking at a 14-team schedule for the 2012 season?

HAHAHA just kidding, folks:

As reported by the Birmingham News's Jon Solomon, yes, that's Mike Slive telling reporters at SEC basketball media days that McGarity was (as the kids say) full of it. (Slive only added that he had nothing else to add.) Since we're pretty sure there's no better source on this than the commissioner himself, it's now safe to assume that Missouri has not been ruled out from competing in the SEC in 2012 and that the league is prepared to make the necessary accomodations if the Tigers want to make the leap as soon as next season.

That, of course, was how Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton had previously described his school's potential jump, saying recently it would be "applicable to the next year."

That assertion has been challenged by everyone from McGarity to Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas to plenty of other anonymously sourced reports that have put Mizzou in the SEC in 2013 at the earliest. That makes more sense than the alternative, since the rearranging of 2012 schedules at this late date on both the Big 12's end (with a giant Missouri-sized hole in their slates) and the SEC's would be a logistical nightmare.

But it may be a nightmare both the Tigers and the SEC are willing to deal with, if it means the former dodges a lame-duck final season in the Big 12 and the latter avoids the awkwardness of a 13-team schedule. With Slive now openly admitting for the first time that the SEC is poised to go to 14 teams and the Big 12 actively pursuing the addition of one or more new members, it seems likelier than ever Missouri's defection could become official in a matter of days rather than weeks.

Will that be soon enough to leap through the rapidly-closing 2012 scheduling window? That still seems unlikely, but if Mike Slive himself is open to the possibility, the possibility is no doubt open.


Since: Jul 23, 2009
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:31 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

I welcome Texas A&M and Mizzou to the SEC and cant wait to travel to Kyle field because it is a legendary stadium that fits right in with the super stadiums in the SEC.This talk about Mizzous facilitys not being up to par isnt right as thier stadium holds as much as several SEC teams and after being in the SEC for several years I bet the stadium;the practice facilitys and the rest of the sports venues will improve with the amount of money and exposure the SEC brings.As I remember Arkansas was on a down slope and USC was a disaster with a really bad losing streak when they joined and look at them now;Arky is a powerhouse and the Gamecocks made it to the SEC title game last year.sorry my comma button was ripped off my keyboard by my three year old...........................WELCO


Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:28 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

pyshie, my primary source for WVU going to the Big 12 are articles in USA Today this week, that say that the B12 has extended the invite and WVU has accepted it.

Geographically, WVU is totally logical.  Academically, WVU is totally logical.  "Worthy-opponent-wise," WVU is totally logical.  My elderly father has even become more comfortable with Mizzou as I have because of believing that WVU is headed to the B12.

But if Mizzou decided to stay, and WVU ended up joining it would pose no problem for me.  It would complicate the scheduling process if the SEC had to be at 13 teams for two seasons, since WVU has the contract requirement to stay 27-months after accepting another conferences' invitation.

Of course, the 27-month thing could probably be gotten around with $$$, but in reality, I don't know.

But there is no need to sound harsh in your post.  This is more about trying to uncover the mystery that is going on.


Since: Dec 8, 2006
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:21 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

ANY talk of academics being considered is hilarious.  C'mon guys....get real.

Since: Dec 8, 2006
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:20 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Do NOT rule out WVU to the SEC.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:18 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

HogAuthority, good post.  It got posted before my post to GoBlue got posted.  Thanks for the info.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 8:16 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

GoBlue, good post.  Mizzou would seem to be the mysterious bottleneck that is gumming up much of the realignment process.  Once it is certain, WVU should become "official" within the B12, and then the BE chaos will really begin, since there is the continued talk of Louisville and possibly Cincy joining the Big 12 at one point to make a 14-conference team.  Of course, BYU could be preferred by the B12 over Cincy.  Personally, I would like to see Boise go into the Big 12, but they may not qualify academically, just as they did not qualify academically to join the PAC-10 as it was becoming the PAC-12.

Many posters seem to be unaware that schools must pass academic muster to get into the AQ conferences, since AQ conferences all contain schools that have varying requirements for a certain number of doctoral programs, graduate students, research dollars, etc., etc.  

Nationally, the PAC-12, the B1G, ACC, and the Big 12 are the highest rated conferences academically and I have not listed them in any particular order.  I believe the current BE is rated higher academically than the SEC.  The AQ conferences do not just add teams because of TV markets or outstanding football or basketball teams.  They also include academic requirements.   &nbs

Anyway, Missouri exceeds SEC academic requirements, but as GoBlue stated there is something holding the finality of the Mizzou deal up, even if it is on the verge.  If anyone has additional knowledge of this, please let us know.

For Mizzou to join the SEC they need 9 out of the 12 school presidents' votes.  It has been stated in multiple places that Mizzou is at 8 votes, with Alabama voting no, because of their concern of Mizzou going into the Western Division and pushing Auburn into the Eastern Division, thus messing up Alabama's unique football relationship with Auburn and Tennessee. 

The other 3 naysayers are unknown, but two of them could very well be Tennessee and Auburn because of their relationship to Alabama in SEC football.  I suspect the fourth naysayer is Georgia because they are currently Auburn's interdivisional permanent annual opponent.

I believe the deal is being cut to put Mizzou into the Eastern Division even if it appears to be illogical.  But, putting Mizzou in the Western Division tears up all kinds of things within in the SEC that will destroy the SEC-brand on some level, where Alabama can't play Tennessee, Georgia has to get a new interdivisional permanent rival, etc., ripple effect, ad nauseum.

If anyone has additional info regarding Mizzou and why there is a holdup, please post it for all of us, or let me know where I have something wrong whether it be your opinion or fact!  Thanks. 

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 7:48 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

I think Mizzou (Deaton) will hit a home run when the times comes.

He will #1 make sure his trail it is clean with Big 12 and it is so it just the final $ amount for leaving next year to go with A&M
#2 They are working on internal base plans to address Kansas City with new BBall tournament they will host and arrangements to pl;ay Kansas.   #3 they have to allow the SEC to firm the decision and what conference they will start out with and cross rival so forth.

Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: October 27, 2011 7:42 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

It seems that no one seems to know what the hold-up is about Missouri leaving the Big 12. There must be at least one school threatening to sue Mizzou and the SEC.

Since: Oct 14, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 6:30 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Why doesn't the SEC add Missouri and West Virginia stay in the Big East?  Both would be a better cultural fit there rather than sticking out like sore thumbs in the maligned Big 12 conference.

Since: Sep 2, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 6:25 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

13=We can't get Missouri this season.
14=We got Missouri for 2012-2013.

This thing is done. If anyone saw Brady Deaton's interview Monday night after the meeting in Dallas, he didn't do a good job of hiding or covering his tracks. Missouri is gone it is just a question of whether they'll be out by next season.

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