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Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Posted on: October 27, 2011 2:12 pm
Edited on: October 27, 2011 5:34 pm
Posted by Jerry Hinnen

Hey, remember three days ago, when we told you that per Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity, the SEC wasn't looking at a 14-team schedule for the 2012 season?

HAHAHA just kidding, folks:

As reported by the Birmingham News's Jon Solomon, yes, that's Mike Slive telling reporters at SEC basketball media days that McGarity was (as the kids say) full of it. (Slive only added that he had nothing else to add.) Since we're pretty sure there's no better source on this than the commissioner himself, it's now safe to assume that Missouri has not been ruled out from competing in the SEC in 2012 and that the league is prepared to make the necessary accomodations if the Tigers want to make the leap as soon as next season.

That, of course, was how Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton had previously described his school's potential jump, saying recently it would be "applicable to the next year."

That assertion has been challenged by everyone from McGarity to Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas to plenty of other anonymously sourced reports that have put Mizzou in the SEC in 2013 at the earliest. That makes more sense than the alternative, since the rearranging of 2012 schedules at this late date on both the Big 12's end (with a giant Missouri-sized hole in their slates) and the SEC's would be a logistical nightmare.

But it may be a nightmare both the Tigers and the SEC are willing to deal with, if it means the former dodges a lame-duck final season in the Big 12 and the latter avoids the awkwardness of a 13-team schedule. With Slive now openly admitting for the first time that the SEC is poised to go to 14 teams and the Big 12 actively pursuing the addition of one or more new members, it seems likelier than ever Missouri's defection could become official in a matter of days rather than weeks.

Will that be soon enough to leap through the rapidly-closing 2012 scheduling window? That still seems unlikely, but if Mike Slive himself is open to the possibility, the possibility is no doubt open.


Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: October 27, 2011 6:21 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Why doesn't the SEC add West Virginia and Missoiri stay in the Big 12. Both would be a better cultural fit there rather than sticking out like sore thumbs in the conference that they are planning on joining.

Since: Oct 27, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:48 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

SEC Basketball Divisions were eliminated after last year. Because of prior scheduling, the 2011-2012 schedule will be played as if there were divisions, but will be arrange 1-12 based on conference records.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:44 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

All this realignment madness reminds me of a male version of female-oriented soap operas.  Every day something different from dozens of different media sources and writers.  And then we all sit here and post about it, when a lot of what is reported is a real load of you-know-what.

ebonyrod, the thing with the Senate is that WV received and accepted an invite from the Big 12.  Then Senator Mitch McConnell got into it because "supposedly" a few Big 12 presidents were having second thoughts, and thought Louisville might be the better invite.  And then T. Boone Pickens, an Okie State alum or supporter said that Morgantown, WV was too isolated.

Then the two senators from the state of WV, Joe Manchin and Jay Rockefeller got into it, with Manchin promising an investigation into Congress getting involved with institutional matters and CFB.

Then there is the saga of when Mizzou comes into the SEC.  Now it's being reported they may be a member in time for the 2012 season, because of the problems of making a 13-team schedule for one year.  Also, it has not been definitely reported to my knowledge as to which Division Mizzou will come into (someone provide a solid media source if I'm wrong), but indications are that it will be the Eastern Division because that way the two new members (Mizzou and TAMU) will become permanent interdivision "playmates," just like SC and Arkansas when they joined in 1992, AND Alabama's applecart will not be upset by forcing Auburn into the East, thus affecting Bama's ability to play both Tennessee and Auburn every year, since Tennessee is currently Alabama's current permanent interdivisional matchup, while Auburn is currently in the West along with Bama.

Then there's the BE ... being plundered, but yet issuing invitations to Boise State and AF and others.  Yet word has it that Boise has made some movement toward the "Big West" conference (can someone please describe the Big West ... does it include part of the WAC or what)? 

Connecticut wants to be in the ACC, but the ACC says it just wants to stay at 14 for now.  Cincy and Louisville want into the Big 12, which would result in that conference having 12-members again with the addition of WVU and TCU.  This would then leave UConn and Rutgers (Rutgers being the only original member football-wise of the BE) left without a conference, unless the ACC decided to pick them up.  Both schools certainly have ACC-level academics and are actually Atlantic Coast schools (how refreshing).

Then there's BYU, which as been mentioned as a possible member of the Big 12, which could cause Cincy some problems.

And then there's ND.  I previously read on these boards that ND would not go to the Big 10, because that would give the state of Indiana 3 teams in the conference.  Then there's been talk of ND staying in the BB BE, and of going into the ACC, as well as the Big 12.        

This is my simple (and likely correctable) understanding of how things stand right now, but as of tomorrow, who knows?

Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:32 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Very true...all about money!!! I love these officals talk about academics.  What a crock, if Morgantown had a population of 3 million people every conference would want them.  But since they have a very small market (again..the money) they like to say WVU does not meet their academic standards.  I am fine with that as a reason, if it were true--but we all know it is not.

Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:30 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

What are you smoking? Texas A&M maybe a fun place to go to school but they did not dominate the Big 12.

Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:25 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Missouri is like my friend, always going to do something different.

Since: Oct 20, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:21 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

I personally would welcome Missouri to the SEC. I think they bring a lot to the table (athletics, academics, and a decent TV Market) and an asset to the Conference. Let's get it done.

Since: Nov 23, 2008
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:18 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

the 'gentleman's agreement' is not about having (presently) two teams in the same state but about adding (future) a second team from an existing SEC school state, i.e. Clemson, FSU, GT, Louisville would probably individually be a good fit for the SEC but are not considered because of said agreement. Media markets represent $$ so that is another reason not to add from an existing SEC state so while some schools would be a good fit for the SEC, they are 'disqualified' as such. Too bad IMO cause Clemson would bring back rivalry with UGA, FSU could be in the conference it originally wanted (but was denied b/c of said 'gents agreement') or GT could come back home. VT and WVU would also be good choices but doesn't look like it's happening.

Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:17 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

@LSU78--I think we were revelant in 2008 when we won a BCS game, the Orange Bowl, vs Vigirina Tech... Granted, that may have been a 1 year wonder, but you might want to ask your future SEC Tigers which BCS bowl game they have won, or when thier last trip to the Final Four was.  You guys are welcome for the free wins in football, you'll "love" Columbia... enjoy. LOL  By the way, the last time you guys were revelant in hoops?? Shaq and Dale Brown say "hi"

I am not cracking on anyone here, but LSU was in the Final Four just a few years ago.  But, we admit that we suck in basketball, and still I believe we were in a Final Four more recently that Missouri.  LSU is 4-0 in BCS games and 2-0 in BCS NC games.  We are happy with who we are. 

Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:13 pm

Slive: SEC 'working on' 13 and 14-team schedules

Texas A&M will dominate the SEC next year!

Our National Championships:

Football 1939

Women’s Softball 1982*, 1983, 1987

Women's Outdoor Track & Field 2009, 2010, 2011

Women's Basketball 2011

Equestrian Overall: 2002

Men's Golf 2009


That was funny as hell.

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