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Big 12 makes West Virginia official

Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:13 pm
Edited on: October 28, 2011 6:43 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

As first reported by CBSSports.com's Brett McMurphy on Friday morning, the Big 12 has invited West Virginia to join the conference and West Virginia accepted the invitation, informing the Big East of the decision on Friday.

The move is now official as the Big 12 has released a statement about West Virginia.

"The Big 12 Presidents and Chancellors are excited to welcome another outstanding institution to the Conference," said Burns Hargis, Chair of the Big 12 Board of Directors in the release. "The addition of West Virginia, while expanding the reach of the Big 12, brings an impressive institution with esteemed academics and a proud athletic tradition into the Conference. This is another step in building a strong foundation for the future of the Big 12." 

"The Big 12 is a perfect fit for West Virginia University," said WVU President Dr. James P. Clements. "It is a strong conference that, like WVU, values quality academic and athletic programs, and has a great tradition of success. This is a very exciting time for WVU and Mountaineer nation. I am confident that the future of WVU athletics has never been more promising."

West Virginia to the Big 12
What is not so clear at this point is when West Virginia will be joining the Big 12, According to the Big 12's release on Friday, the school would become a member of the conference beginning on July 1, 2012. However, the Big East said on Friday that it plans on holding West Virginia to the same 27-month notice that it is holding Pitt and Syracuse to. If that is the case, then West Virginia can't join the Big 12 until 2014.

During a conference call on Friday afternoon announcing the deal, West Virginia said that it plans on being in the Big 12 by July 2012, but it's not official as of yet. From Chip Patterson's post:
Both [athletic director Oliver] Luck and [President James] Clements repeatedly used the target date "July 1, 2012" as the school's expected arrival in the Big 12. When multiple questions were posed to West Virginia's leadership on how they planned to leave before the completion 27-month period - the response was predictably vague.

"Our team and their team were in discussion today, tying to make that happen," Luck said of the negotiations with the Big East office. 
How West Virginia would go about that, the odds are that the answer is money. The Big East may be willing to let the Mountaineers leave early if the school pays far more than the $5 million exit fee. What exactly the amount would be for that, well, as Luck said above, those discussions are currently being held.

Of course, this does not answer every question about this announced move. Generally over the last few weeks when West Virginia was a rumored target of the Big 12, it was always with the caveat that the conference wouldn't bring in another school unless Missouri left the conference first. Well, as of the news that West Virginia had accepted an invitation on Friday, Missouri had yet to announce that it was leaving for the SEC.

Though it's possible that Missouri's announcement could be coming in the next couple of days.
Comments

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: October 28, 2011 1:10 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

Boise State won't join a major conference because they would rather play against easier competition and then whine about not being considered for a National Championship berth. Their current MO is to play two or three big games a year and nine easier ones. That way, they have plenty of time to rest, heal, and get motivated for big games without having to suffer through the grind of playing an entire season in a major conference.
I agree that this is ludicrous, not only would Boise jump in a minute to play in an AQ conference, but what is so tough about playing in an AQ conference--seriously.  I mean take the SEC for example, Boise already beat Georgia and it's very reasonable based on that win alone that they could handle Candy, Miss Stake, UT, and Old Maid for sure.  Kentucky is another gimme, plus the SC game with Georgia was very close so it's reasonable to think that they could handle SC.  That's 6 wins and possibly 7 with SC, throw in 3 cupcake OOC's like the rest of the SEC and they got 10 wins.  If they could do that in the most dominant conference in football, then it shouldn't be hard for them to do it in the B12, B10, or PAC. 





Since: May 10, 2007
Posted on: October 28, 2011 1:07 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

If the BE can pull of the gret western grab, BSU is far better of in the BE than the Mountain West. If it can not, well the BE will loose its AQ to the MW in 2013 without a doubt. BSU is in 100% control of this situation. the AQ is awarded based on a league average BCS standing over a measure of years. I don't need to remind you all that BSU brings a very healthy average to the table. The AQ follows BSU to whatever conference they choose. A very powerful position. Nonetheless, and AQ Big East is a much more marketable product than an AQ Mountain West. If the Big East can scrap together a Western Division expect BSU to jump at the chance to join. If not, well, in the long run sticking with the Mountain West is the wiser choice. 



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 1:07 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

Glad the waiting for the invite is finally over.  Big 12 nay not be as stable as the Big1G or SEC, but compared to the Big East the Big 12 is more steady.


Now to start arguing over the exit fee.


Hate to see the remaining Big East football schools hanging with no place to go.  Will miss the games with our old rivals.  Wish the BE and the remaining teams the best of luck in working out their future.    &nbs
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Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:54 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

Teres Minor, that is absolutley absurd. Boise would join any of the top 5 BCS conferences in a hearbeat. Boise is desperate to get into an AQ conference, if just for the money. That is why they are considering joining the Big East, which is a horrible fit for them, just to get their program to move up. They are better off in the MWC than the Big East, because that conference is on its death bed.



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:51 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

If the BE can get back to 12 teams the result would be:

Lose: WVU, Pitt, SU
Add: Boise St, Houston, SMU, UCF, Air Force, Navy and potentially BYU.

Of the teams the BE lost, only WVU has been in the top 25 this year. 

Of the teams the BE is looking to add, BSU, HU, UCF and (I believe SMU) have all been in the top 25 this year.  Based on this year, the new BE will be a better football conference than the old BE.




Since: Jul 15, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:46 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

The Interim Big XII Commissioner has done more in four weeks (TCU & WV) than Dan Beebe did in four years!  What a difference a change at the top can make when you flush out the sewage.



Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:45 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

I think the Big 12 is making a huge mistake by staying at 10 teams, and not having a Conference Championship game.  Just go back to 2003, when USC was the #1 team in the nation in both polls, but did not get selected to play in the BCS Championship game because they did not play in a Conference Championship game, and LSU and OU did.  A 13 win team has the edge over a 12 win team, even if both teams have the same number of losses.  The Big 12 has an excellent opportunity to pick up Louisville and Cincinnati now.  Both are decent in football.  Louisville is a basketball power.  By doing this, the Big 12 could also go back to an 8 game conference schedule, giving their teams an easier time qualifying for a bowl game.  A 12 team Big 12 just makes sense.



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:42 pm
 

Boise won't join

Boise State won't join a major conference because they would rather play against easier competition and then whine about not being considered for a National Championship berth.  Their current MO is to play two or three big games a year and nine easier ones.  That way, they have plenty of time to rest, heal, and get motivated for big games without having to suffer through the grind of playing an entire season in a major conference.  

BSU won't put their money where their mouths are because they would lose two or three games a year in the Big 12.  Then, they would no longer be able to play the "no respect" card or tell everyone how great they are.  BSU is a very good team that pretends to be a great team.  There is no pretending in a major conference; sooner or later, everyone's flaws are revealed and the right teams usually win. 
 
BSU talks a great game.  And they win their share of big games when they only have to play two or three a year.  But they and their fanbase know, deep in their hearts, that they would be just another good team in any major conference. 



Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:39 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

I just hope all of this nonsense is over.



Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:32 pm
 

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

So, the Big 12 loses Texas A&M and Missouri and picks up TCU and WVU.  I think this is a net gain for the Big 12.  I wish they would pick up Boise and Louisville and get back to 12 teams.  They are still a very strong conference now, so it is not like they have to do something additional, it would just be nice. 


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