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Big 12 makes West Virginia official

Posted on: October 28, 2011 12:13 pm
Edited on: October 28, 2011 6:43 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

As first reported by's Brett McMurphy on Friday morning, the Big 12 has invited West Virginia to join the conference and West Virginia accepted the invitation, informing the Big East of the decision on Friday.

The move is now official as the Big 12 has released a statement about West Virginia.

"The Big 12 Presidents and Chancellors are excited to welcome another outstanding institution to the Conference," said Burns Hargis, Chair of the Big 12 Board of Directors in the release. "The addition of West Virginia, while expanding the reach of the Big 12, brings an impressive institution with esteemed academics and a proud athletic tradition into the Conference. This is another step in building a strong foundation for the future of the Big 12." 

"The Big 12 is a perfect fit for West Virginia University," said WVU President Dr. James P. Clements. "It is a strong conference that, like WVU, values quality academic and athletic programs, and has a great tradition of success. This is a very exciting time for WVU and Mountaineer nation. I am confident that the future of WVU athletics has never been more promising."

West Virginia to the Big 12
What is not so clear at this point is when West Virginia will be joining the Big 12, According to the Big 12's release on Friday, the school would become a member of the conference beginning on July 1, 2012. However, the Big East said on Friday that it plans on holding West Virginia to the same 27-month notice that it is holding Pitt and Syracuse to. If that is the case, then West Virginia can't join the Big 12 until 2014.

During a conference call on Friday afternoon announcing the deal, West Virginia said that it plans on being in the Big 12 by July 2012, but it's not official as of yet. From Chip Patterson's post:
Both [athletic director Oliver] Luck and [President James] Clements repeatedly used the target date "July 1, 2012" as the school's expected arrival in the Big 12. When multiple questions were posed to West Virginia's leadership on how they planned to leave before the completion 27-month period - the response was predictably vague.

"Our team and their team were in discussion today, tying to make that happen," Luck said of the negotiations with the Big East office. 
How West Virginia would go about that, the odds are that the answer is money. The Big East may be willing to let the Mountaineers leave early if the school pays far more than the $5 million exit fee. What exactly the amount would be for that, well, as Luck said above, those discussions are currently being held.

Of course, this does not answer every question about this announced move. Generally over the last few weeks when West Virginia was a rumored target of the Big 12, it was always with the caveat that the conference wouldn't bring in another school unless Missouri left the conference first. Well, as of the news that West Virginia had accepted an invitation on Friday, Missouri had yet to announce that it was leaving for the SEC.

Though it's possible that Missouri's announcement could be coming in the next couple of days.

Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: October 28, 2011 7:04 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

Have you forgotten that Pitt has now scrwed eastern football twice?

Hey jsokol 1626, perhaps if you had a nom de plume that made sense you could find a lttle more truth for your ramblings.  I have heard just about every story concerning Pitt and PSU and the reason(s) for the falling out. Your version is absolutely false, biased, and inane. Do some homework before spewing out your libelous rantings.

Since: Nov 8, 2009
Posted on: October 28, 2011 6:37 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

Why in the world should WVU continue it's rivalry w/ Pitt. Have you forgotten that Pitt has now scrwed eastern football twice? Penn State's decision to join the Big Ten was largely because Pitt was cutting deals to join the Big East which, at the time, was a basketball only conference. Penn State, not known for it's basketball was excluded. Most recently, Pitt's decision to join the ACC will probably be the undoing of the Big East as a BCS conference. WVU should treat Pitt the same as Penn State did with both Syracuse and Pitt, ignore them. Pitt can't fill their football stadium now so why should WVU fans spend their money to benefit Pitt?

Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: October 28, 2011 6:27 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

I guess the Big East's idea of "aggressively expanding" was to go after mid-major schools from out west like Boise State and BYU and to take other mid-major type schools like Army and Navy and try to place them into the conference. 

Starting next year, the Big East will officially be a mid-major conference. It doesn't matter what they do at this point. The Big East isn't going to grab a Texas, Florida or Oklahoma because they're too cheap to pay a big time school like that, even if they wanted to come to the Big East. Unfortunately, those are the kinds of programs that make the money and keep conferences with BCS statuses. And then on top of that, you have very poor management. I could honestly run the conference better, and I have no management experience. Marinatto should be fired too.

John Marinatto said Tuesday that all of the members of his conference are committed to staying together, the result of a three-hour meeting in New York between presidents and athletic directors from the Big East football schools.Marinatto said each member pledged to remain in the conference and the membership -- including Notre Dame and the seven other non-football members 
Yes, the schools re-assure yourself, Marinatto that the non-money making schools want to still stay in the conference. Maybe if the Big East would've kicked these stupid schools out years ago (St. Johns, Depaul, Providence, Seton Hall, Villanova, Marquette and Georgetown) and made room for bigger schools that actually had football programs the Big East would've made more money. The Big East was a BCS conference, kick the teams that aren't BCS like out. Three out of the eight teams there don't even have good basketball programs anyways. They're completely worthless to the conference. Then with Notre Dame, instead of letting them use you in all other sports, and then giving them bowl tie-ins in football while letting them have their own indepedence, you should've told them to join in football or get out. Only a bunch of idiots would've let this kind of stuff go on for as long as it has. The Big East listens to the small voices, instead of the schools like Syracuse, Connecticut, West Virginia, Rugters, Pittsburgh, Louisville and Cincy. Those schools are the reason why the Big East is even part of the BCS. Now that you don't listen to the biggers schools, look where this has gotten the Big East.. um, West Virginia is leaving for the Big 12, Syracuse and Pitt are leaving for the ACC and I'm sure Connecticut and Louisville are looking for a new conference as well. 

Since: Oct 16, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 6:09 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

WVU - welcome to the Big 12.  To those who chose to leave the Big 12, best wishes in your new conferneces.  Time to stop all the blame game BS and just get on with the game! 

Since: Dec 3, 2009
Posted on: October 28, 2011 5:56 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

I like what CoachLee had to say, especially about Louisville and Cincinnati.  I just wish our athletic staff here in Cincy was as proactive as West Virginia and Louisville have been.  Unless you count our new AD being from Missouri.  I would love for the Bearcats to be in the Big 12, and put an end to all the Buckeye claims of UC being a lower class football team.  They refuse to admit that in 2002 when they won the National Title, UC came to within a dropped pass in the end zone of beating them at Paul Brown Stadium.  That's why they'll only play us in Columbus.  They know we can take it to them.  Wouldn't THAT be a nice plum for the Big 12 when the Bearcats play Ohio State the next two years.  Please come calling Big 12, we WILL answer!

Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 5:53 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

Remember this back on September 21st, 2011? Thought yall' could use a little humor.

NEW YORK -- Big East commissioner John Marinatto said Tuesday that all of the members of his conference are committed to staying together, the result of a three-hour meeting in New York between presidents and athletic directors from the Big East football schools.Marinatto said each member pledged to remain in the conference and the membership -- including Notre Dame and the seven other non-football members -- is committed to aggressively recruiting replacements for Syracuse and Pittsburgh, though he would not indicate which schools are candidates.

So what had changed? Guess that meeting was held at the NYC Comedy Club. Now we really didn't take that announcement serious did we?

Who's laughing now Marinatto? So much for being aggressive in recruiting replacements. If you try a little harder Maybe Louisville will be next. They sure hope so.

Since: Sep 12, 2007
Posted on: October 28, 2011 5:48 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

I was born and raised in Missouri and anything but a fan of Nebraska but I thought it sounded fishy when rhensley3 said "nebraska is an above average football school, but sucks at everything else".  I wasted a minute of my time to check out the Big 12 Championships page and it lists Nebraska  with the second most all-time regular season championships (behind Texas) and the second most all-time postseason championships (again behind only Texas).  I also ran across the fact that their Women's volleyball team is currently ranked #1 in the country.  Somebody is an idiot.

Since: Sep 23, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 5:43 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

With this move, the Big 12 has lost its soul. It is still a power conference, but its soul is dead. It no longer makes any sense, except for dollars and cents. Pathetic.

Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: October 28, 2011 5:37 pm

Glad to have you WVU!!!

Congratulations to the Mountaineer Nation, and the athletes and fans of WVU!

I am a Texas Tech grad... but always have loved watching the Mountaineers when they were playing.
Now I can look forward to a WVU / OU game... or WVU / Texas Tech game... HOW EXCITING!
You bring a quality athletic program, a winning tradition, and an excitement and fan base that we are looking for.

I hope the BIG 12 also invites Louisville and CIncinnatti to become a 12 team league again.

Once again... glad to have you!


Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 5:18 pm

Big 12 makes West Virginia official

It is a relief to finally have our Mountaineers find a relevant BCS home.  I can honestly say I began to feel more comfortable about our future when Oklahoma and Texas said no to the PAC 12,  that meant they'd be looking to rebuild the Big 12 and there are plenty of schools that are aware of the quality of our school and our head coaches, who have both spent time in the Big 12.  Recruiting is always a concern when you take on a geographic leap like this, but our school is not geographically fixated and the quality of competition will only open more doors. 

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