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Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

Posted on: October 31, 2011 11:40 am
Edited on: October 31, 2011 10:46 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

UPDATE: The Pac-12 announced an official reprimand, and $10,000 fine for Lane Kiffin in response to his comments. 

“The Pac-12 has specific rules that prohibit our coaches from making public comments about officiating, and this prohibition specifically includes comments that create doubts about the credibility of the Conference’s officiating program,” stated Scott. “The Conference expects each Pac-12 coach to adhere to our standards of conduct and to conduct himself or herself in a manner which will reflect credit on the institution and the Conference.”

's 56-48 loss in triple-overtime against Stanford on Saturday night might just be the best loss in the school's recent history. The sense I've gotten from USC fans since is that even though the Trojans lost, they're incredibly happy with the way the team played and more optimistic about the program than they have been in years.

Lane Kiffin, on the other hand, isn't nearly as pleased about the game. While I'm sure he's proud of his team for being the first squad to even take a lead against Stanford this season, let alone force overtime, he's still a bit perturbed with the officiating on Saturday night. In fact, on Sunday Kiffin said that he had already contacted Pac-12 Conference officials and called one unidentified person from the locker room after the game and told him that he had been "lied to" by the officials.

According to Kiffin, side judge Brad Glenn told him that USC would be granted a timeout if replays showed that Robert Woods' knee had come down with a second remaining on the clock, giving USC a chance to kick a 50-yard field goal. Instead referee Michael Batian announced that time had expired after looking at replays.

“The ruling on the field was that we were going to overtime,” Batlan said after the game. “Any coach can ask for a timeout, but he doesn’t get one until an official grants or signifies it. I was not a part of any conversation or meeting with regards to a requested timeout.”

Personally, if I were Kiffin and I had a timeout left, I'd be more upset with Woods for not just going down with plenty of time left to call that timeout instead of making a mad dash for the sideline.

Of course, that wasn't Kiffin's only beef with the officiating on Saturday night. He also brought up a call in the second overtime. Facing a second-and-5 there was a holding call against Stanford that took place at the line of scrimmage. Though for some reason the officials marked the 10 yards off from where Tyler Gaffney's 8-yard run ended rather than from where the penalty took place. So instead of having a second-and-15 at the 30-yard line, Stanford had a second-and-7 at the 22.

The Cardinal scored three plays later to tie the game up and force the third, decisive overtime.

That call I didn't understand either.

Since: May 5, 2008
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:47 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

I have NEVER been a USC fan
and I am not a Kiffen fan


by rule

if the coach is requesting a time out and the official sees it and there is ANY time on the clock

then the TO should be branted.

if you watch the replay

Kiffen and the official on the USC sideline anr in clear conversation

the official is signally a stoppage of the clock and there is 0.5 seconds on the clock

time should have been granted and the clock starts on the snap

would USC have won???

we will never know


the holding penalty should have been marked from the spot of the foul not the end of the run

3rd and 7 and 3rd and 15 are significantly different

would USC have stopped them?

we will never know


as for those griping about a missed hold and helmet to helmet etc

those are action plays that can be missed or called differently as per ones perspective.

I cant gripe about those type calls.

I can disagree with the call but it is judgement

but a misinterpretation of the rules that is incorrectly applied is not acceptable

Since: Sep 9, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:44 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

Not a Lane Kiffin fan and not a USC fan.  In fact I think Lame Kitten is a long term bad for USC football given his low moral character and his propensity to be, shall we say, less than truthful.  That said, they were robbed.  Woods went down with a second on the clock and Lame was crystal clear he wanted a time out.  For those who say it makes no difference, that is royal garbage.  They had a kicker who could boot it 50 and probably 50/50 chance he connects... game over.  I also agree that SC got the shaft on the helmet to helmet call but that is part of the game, the lack of collaboration by refs to get the timeout right is just inexcusable.


Since: Mar 8, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:42 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

I have no respect for Kiffin whatsoever, as an MSU Spartan fan I have NO love for USC, and even if the two calls referred to above went another way there is no certainty the Trojans would've/could've won. But to see officials blow the spot on a simple offensive holding call, perhaps the most common penalty in football at ANY level? That's unacceptable and should result in an announcement from the league office admitting the error, along with an official reprimand of the officiating crew.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:32 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

I'm glad the officials didn't give USC that final second timeout.  I'm neither a USC nor a Stanford fan.  I'm glad they didn't allow it because it is not something that has historically been done in other, similar situations.  In order to get a timeout called, you have to have enough time between the prior play being finished and enough time to relay the message to the official.  Typically, officials haven't split a single second for anyone's benefit, and it would be very suspicious had they done so Saturday for USC.

Since: Dec 27, 2010
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:28 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

The Line was 7.5 ... something has got to be rotten in Denmark

Since: May 12, 2008
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:20 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

Truly ironic Jd1973!  I am certain that the state of Tennessee would be happy to agree as well.

Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:18 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

Kiffin can whine all he wants about refs and probation, but someday he needs to simply say "we messed up."  His dad taught him better than that.  I feel sorry for Monte every time Lane opens his mouth.  

Why would anyone feel sorry for Monte, or even assume he taught Lane better than that.  I think Monte is the same piece of crap that Lane is, Monte just does not talk as much.  These two clowns have been together long enough for everyone to stop acting like Monte is a class act or something. 

Since: Jun 6, 2008
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:17 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

I don't like Kiffin a whole lot, but I watched that game and they got screwed.  The 15 yard unneccasary roughness call was BS.  Whats a defender supposed to do when the receiver shrinks himself to mininmize contact.  He was aiming for the hips, receiver goes down and that creates helmet to helmet contact.  That type of play needs to be reviewable.  Second, they ruled he was defensless.  Come on, he got hit 1/2 second after he dropped the ball, how does a defensive player do his job right if you're calling things that close.  I watch a DB in a game earlier in the day get knocked cold by a running back who dropped his head to use it as a battering ram and put it right into the side of the DB's head and yet no penalty.  Total double standard.

Finally, the last seconds of regulation in this game, Woods clearly went down with 1 second on the clock and Kiffin had already arranged for the timeout.  That happens all the time.  For the head official to come out and say "we take those requests all the time, but we don't gaurantee anything" sounds a lot like "if we like you, you got it, if we don't no promises".  Pac 10 and now Pac 12 has always had questionable officiating and this just adds to it.

Since: Sep 12, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:16 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

Since Woods' knee went down in the field of play the clock would run until the officials stopped it because of the first down.  Unless there is some special allowance in the rules for this situation I can't see how USC is entitled to another play and the field judge simply erred if he told Kiffin SC would be granted a time out after the fact.

Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: October 31, 2011 12:16 pm

Lane Kiffin still upset with officials

I usually never post anything regarding Kiffin because of what he has done to football programs as well as recruits in the past. Now it has become apparent that there is always someone to blame other than himself or his players. Face it Lane, you lost to a team that should have pummeled you but your guys gave it their all to get a win. Now go congratulate your p,ayers for a tremendous effort on Saturday and focus on you next opponent.

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