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Honolulu police not investigating point-shaving

Posted on: November 22, 2011 8:37 pm
Edited on: November 23, 2011 12:34 pm
Posted by Adam Jacobi

[UPDATE: A statement released by the Honolulu Police Department on Tuesday said that there was not an active investigation into the allegations, as they did not have enough evidence to proceed with one.]

The University of Hawaii announced on Tuesday that its football team was involved in a point-shaving investigation. According to the Hawaii Star-Advertiser, the probe is the result of an anonymous tip to the Hawaii admissions department earlier this month, and school president M.R.C. Greenwood said that school officials immediately notified the police and NCAA.

"UH has alerted the NCAA about the anonymous letter and its contents and, in discussions with them, has been informed it is 'doing exactly what you need to be doing' in this situation," Greenwood said.

The NCAA released a statement Wednesday that reads (in part) as follows:
We are extremely concerned by the point-shaving allegations involving University of Hawaii football student-athletes and have been in contact with the school since early November. We take any allegation of point shaving very seriously as it is a crime that threatens two core NCAA principles – the well-being of student-athletes and the very integrity of intercollegiate sport ...

[T]he NCAA is regularly in contact with local, state and federal law enforcement and Nevada gaming officials to identify and rout out [sic] sports wagering and point shaving wherever it may occur.
There was no indication made as to when the alleged point-shaving occurred, or how many players were allegedly involved. No charges have been filed in the nascent investigation. Greenwood would not offer any further comment on the investigation as a whole, as it is ongoing.

As's Brett McMurphy notes, Hawaii is 1-6 against the spread as a favorite this year, and has lost four of those games.

According to the Star-Advertiser, Hawaii athletic director Jim Donovan is traveling to Las Vegas for the WAC volleyball tournament and is not immediately available for comment.

This is the first point-shaving scandal in NCAA football since four Toledo football players pled guilty in 2011 to point-shaving in games that occurred from 2003-2006.

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: November 23, 2011 10:07 am

Honolulu police not investigating point-shaving

I think it's a load of horse pucky.  Half of their players don't even bother to shave their faces, but we are expected to believe they are shaving points?  Funny how it's always the insignificant programs that are accused of this.  

The bottom line: if you're good, you should beat them.  If they want to give you a few more points to go with your Hawaiian vacation and your victory, more power to them. 

Since: Jun 22, 2009
Posted on: November 23, 2011 9:56 am

Honolulu police not investigating point-shaving

Point shaving at Hawaii  +  police not investigating  =  police involved in point shaving at Hawaii

Since: Feb 10, 2009
Posted on: November 23, 2011 9:42 am

Honolulu police not investigating point-shaving

Somebody should check out the Boise State kicking team.

Since: Sep 6, 2010
Posted on: November 23, 2011 8:28 am

Honolulu police not investigating point-shaving

Anyone who bets on a regular basis knows that the "Hawaii factor" and name recognition always distorts the lines. It is a huge home advantage for Hawaii when they are good. Also, common bettors keep figuring that Hawaii will bounce back so the line gets distorted by these factors.  Problem is that they aren't that good right now so they shouldn't have been favorites in most of those games.

Since: Oct 21, 2006
Posted on: November 23, 2011 6:45 am

Honolulu police not investigating point-shaving

Point Shaving? Hawaii? Kaka!!! This is one of the stupidest things I ever heard. Point Shaving ? Hawaii? First of all, in order to shave points, you have to be able to score points. Only 1 wide receiver remains healthy from the starting line up, our O line is young and injured, our D line (while very decent against the run), is all banged up and has been all season long.  Face the facts people, we just don't have it this year.  I think it's just a sorry excuse to try to get coach Mac fired.  While he did make a few questionable decisions this year,  I guarantee he  or anybody else on that team is not playing for pay.  Whoever sent that letter needs his Okole introduced to Dunnachies right foot during a 75 yard punt.  Those kids are out there giving everything they got 60 minutes every game sometimes (and a lot lately) playing injured. Point shaving?  100% bogus.

Since: May 29, 2011
Posted on: November 23, 2011 6:23 am

Honolulu police not investigating point-shaving

i think more times the refs are payoff..i c ways 2many phantum holding and interference call or noncall in football and in basketball way 2many tic tac fouls or obvious miss ref donahue scandal prime example and only reason y he was caught cus he got greedy and went overboard.. 2weeks ago raven seahawk and eaagles cardinals game was fishy both had over 80% of public bets and loss straightup vegas made a killing that day lol..i also member couple wks ago eagles 49er game ronnie brown ladderal the ball on goaline on 3rd down that was rule fumble wit eagles up by 7 and end up losing  by 3 wen favored by 3 lol..u neva kno who payoff by vegas but alot of players coaches refs and league official have a price...dat why if im betting i watch public concenus if percentage is 75% or more i try an stay away from those game especially if fav on the road

Since: Sep 11, 2007
Posted on: November 23, 2011 3:34 am

Hawaii announces point-shaving investigation

 I think it goes on i dont kno how much but a prime example if you watch game 2 weeks ago clemson  vs wake forest the qb for clemson should be looked at closely he threw for alot of yards but i watched that game he was making some interesting decisions in throwing the ball killin his team when he had lots of time wide open receivers and they were driving  he would throw to the other team or he would hold the ball to long in key moments when they should have hammered that team and they of course played from behind but of course made the plays to come back at the end to win but not cover the spread....i thought that game was  fishy

Since: Feb 10, 2009
Posted on: November 23, 2011 2:05 am

Hawaii announces point-shaving investigation

This explains why Hawaii got blown out against UNLV.

Since: Jan 8, 2010
Posted on: November 23, 2011 1:17 am

Hawaii announces point-shaving investigation

how in the heck do you send an anonymous letter alleging point shavings and NOT give specifics??

I'm not sure what the word "anonymous" means in Idaho, but in the rest of the country, anonymous refers to the lack of identity of the author, not to a lack of details in the letter itself.  Thus, the letter could be extremely detailed, and yet be sent by an unnamed source.  At this point, you and I don't know the exact contents of the letter, and neither does the author.  If we did, you'd see a copy of the letter posted.

Remember, when all else fails, Wikipedia is your friend.

Since: Dec 7, 2009
Posted on: November 23, 2011 1:02 am

Hawaii announces point-shaving investigation

I'm not going to say that it didn't happen because obviously living in Idaho, I wasn't there, but how in the heck do you send an anonymous letter alleging point shavings and NOT give specifics??  No specific game or players??  There aint a chance in hell anyone is going to confess to this and thanks to such a detailed letter, no one is going to be able to prove it.  Way to go anonymous tipster!!!

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