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Kansas fires Turner Gill

Posted on: November 27, 2011 5:31 pm
Edited on: November 27, 2011 5:31 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

Yet another coach has been relieved of his duties as Black Sunday continues in the college world. This time it's Kansas head coach Turner Gill, as the school announced on Sunday evening that Gill had been fired after two seasons with the Jayhawks.

“After a thorough evaluation of our football program,” said Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger in a release, “I have concluded that new leadership is necessary to place us on the path toward competing for championships in the Big 12 Conference.  I come to this conclusion reluctantly, because I have the utmost respect for Turner Gill as a quality individual who wants only the best for the young men he coaches.” 

Recruiting coordinator Reggie Mitchell has been named interim head coach.

Zenger also said that the school will begin its search immediately. Kansas also intends to pay the $6 million it owes Gill for the final three years of the five-year $10 million contract he signed before the 2010 season.

In his two seasons at Kansas, the Jayhawks went 5-19 including a 1-16 record in the Big 12 and lost 10 games by 30 or more points.
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Since: Sep 25, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 1:16 pm
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

I honestly think deep inside Turner is happy they fired him....Kansas is not a football school and is typically (aside from Mangino) a death penalty for football coaches.  I really hope Turner catches on somewhere...



Since: Dec 2, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 12:53 pm
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

I think if the team had showed improvement week to week he might have been allowed to stay. But after getting blown out by K-State for the second straight year and he made the comment (and several KU players) that practices were not going good and that players were not practicing hard I think he sealed his own fate.



Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2011 12:23 pm
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

JHwaker:

That's why KU is KU and not KSU.  You consistently over value yourself.  You pick out the parts of an arguement that fits your blinded beliefs. 
1) He lost his QB (Reesing) so it's OK to lose his last 7 games. What a lie. He bench Reesing because of poor play.  I don't have to live in Lawrence to remember their history.  Besides, Mangino was there for 7 years, he didn't have a backup QB? No he didn't because in Gill's first game the backup from the yr. prior lost the game, and was replaced by a freshman.
2) Again what makes you think he (Mangino) would want to come back.  It's KU.
3) It took Mangino 4 yrs. to have a winning seasonal record. Not a 500 record.  The man was 12 - 24 his first 3 yrs. The yr. you hold in such high regard, (orange bowl year) you didn't play the 3 best teams in the conference. The next year when you did, you were out scored by them 59-143, and went 0-3.  OU-Texas Tech-Texas.

Blinded by the truth.  Second winnest coach? 50-48.  If he were Turner Gill he would never have been give a chance to win 50 games after starting 12-24.  Second winnest coach with 50 wins, that's what I mean, thats your football history.  You think you are more than what you are. You said it yourself, some of the good coaches that you would like wont even come to KU.  They know what the climate of control mongers and publicity seeking businessmen around the program can do to your Jayhawks.

Two fricking years?  It's not like you have any great history to protect.   




Since: Nov 28, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 12:04 pm
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

The Pirate should be call #1--give him a pile of cash and 5 years and KU will be in the running for conf championships and BCS bowls



Since: Jul 13, 2008
Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:26 am
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

A couple years back, Gill was courted by Iowa State too.  At this point, being an ISU alum, I'm damn glad that he wouldn't even consider us.  Best of luck to the Jayhawks in the future.




Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:12 am
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

I'm obviously in the minority here - but Gill should have had another year to use "his" players.   Was he outclassed?  Yes.   Was his defense horrendous?  Yes.   Did his offense lack capability - Yes.

But-from the first of the season to the end of the season, you could see a markedly vast improvement.  Yes he got blown out by OSU, OU, K-State, and Texas A&M (and Georgia Tech OOC) - but "his" young guys were gaining experience.   And beating Texas A&M in college station is probably the closest the Big 12 has to a top-tier SEC power home field, which is why A&M plays games so close there but gets blown out occasionally on the road to the better teams.

Gundy at OSU went through the same issues when he took over for Les Miles.  He had to empty the cover of some very talented individuals that were not team players (kinda like what Miles is dealing with at LSU right now...) but has to have his players to have that respect.   We'll never know now but think Gill still has to grow into the job and have a better repoire with administration than what he did at Kansas.  I think Kansas was probably headed to a 4-8/5-7 record next year but far more competitive; instead, they'll probably lose some top flight talent unless they get a good coach and will still be 3-9 the next year or two dependent on chemistry.   Not too much different than OSU during most of the 90's.



Since: Nov 13, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:11 am
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Part of the problem at Kansas is that basketball still calls the shots within the athletic program. This isn't the case at Syracuse or even North Carolina any more, although it is probably still the case at Duke.

At Kansas, there have been repeated incidents between members of the basketball and football team. You can't have that kind of turf rivalry on campus. I think it's that kind of atmosphere that contributed to Mangino being forced out, and Turner Gill being so ineffective (albeit in a very short time). Also, in spite of Mangino's relatively recent success, you can't discount the damage to the football program's reputation caused in his last couple of years. Did he get a fair shake? I'm not sure. But, I do know the program was plummeting when he came in, and Gill -- who had said while still at Buffalo that, as a young black coach, he wanted to be careful what job he took -- ended up coming into a really bad situation.

Oh well. At least its basketball season. Kansas may end up in the Mountain West or Conference USA, but they'll always be a first-rate hoops program.

How's that paying the bills, though?





Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:10 am
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Kansas fires Turner Gill

JHwaker:

Your comments show why KU will never suceed. According to you they can't get qualified good coaches to come to the school, so you should go back and redo your past and bring back the coach you fired 2 yrs. ago.  Right fresh off he's own 7 game losing streak.

1) KU has rehired a fired coach before.  How did that work out?
2) What makes you think Mangino would even come back?

He knows that the school will not be in a BCS conference in a couple months. 

Second winningest coach in the programs history, built the a program that one the Orange Bowl, from a school who everyone admits is not currently a top echelon football school...fact of life...However just because they declineded one year after loosing Reesing doesn't mean anything.  He pissed off Lew Perkins is the ONLY reason he lost his job, so yeah I would line my coach that got fired 2 years ago. Don Fambrough, didn't win an Orange Bowl or any other Bowl games for that matter, so comparing bringing back Mangino to Fambrough is apples and oranges.



Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:58 am
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

JHwaker: You hit it right on the head you are sorry!!!  I planted that comment in so someone like you would comment on the one time in you 120+ year of history you went to back to back bowls games.  1 in 120+ I'm very proud of you.

By the way I was born in the state.  Why would I not support it's basketball team. Hell son I support OU also.
I just happen to have that kind of money!  

Big Baller on a message board, I don't even know what that means about having enough money to support OU too..Maybe you fancy yourself as some T. Bone Pickens-esque booster.  

Seriously I din't exatcly say that once in 120+ years was a great record, all I suggested was that you were factually incorrect.  Anyway, nice way of covering up your inability to cite correct information.

I still don't understand if you like the basketball program so much, why do you hate the football program?  I does not compute at all.



Since: Apr 5, 2007
Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:46 am
 

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Letting Turner go was a knee jerk reaction. I think Kansas would have seen marked improvment, next year. It takes time to build a team. Time to get your players in house. Gill was not given that time. Kansas had the G. Sayers years and a few with Mangino. Other than that, not much. Even Neb with their rich tradition, was willing to give B.Callahan 4 years, even after he tore down the program, in his first year. Turner did not have the type of players Solich left, to work with. I can't see a quick fix coach out there, that will be willing to jump into the Kansas job, kmowing its win now or hit the road. Kansas has shown that they are not going to be satisfied with winning, 2,3,4 games after year 1,2,3. No one likes to see their team get blown out, but I watched TT put 70 on Neb, and a few more beat downs, and was still wiling to give BC, time to show what he could do. When it was time to fire BC, it just wasn't only about wins and losses.
Turner will land on his feet, good people always do.

gbr...


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