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Kansas fires Turner Gill

Posted on: November 27, 2011 5:31 pm
Edited on: November 27, 2011 5:31 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

Yet another coach has been relieved of his duties as Black Sunday continues in the college world. This time it's Kansas head coach Turner Gill, as the school announced on Sunday evening that Gill had been fired after two seasons with the Jayhawks.

“After a thorough evaluation of our football program,” said Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger in a release, “I have concluded that new leadership is necessary to place us on the path toward competing for championships in the Big 12 Conference.  I come to this conclusion reluctantly, because I have the utmost respect for Turner Gill as a quality individual who wants only the best for the young men he coaches.” 

Recruiting coordinator Reggie Mitchell has been named interim head coach.

Zenger also said that the school will begin its search immediately. Kansas also intends to pay the $6 million it owes Gill for the final three years of the five-year $10 million contract he signed before the 2010 season.

In his two seasons at Kansas, the Jayhawks went 5-19 including a 1-16 record in the Big 12 and lost 10 games by 30 or more points.

Since: Feb 3, 2007
Posted on: November 27, 2011 9:57 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

The question is, what coach would want to come to KU. Mangino had the program going in the right direction and he was fired because he hurt some poor players feelings and their mommy and daddy complained. The whole attitude toward football at Kansas is going to have to change, not just the football coach.

Since: Mar 29, 2008
Posted on: November 27, 2011 9:50 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

A very good man, but not the right job nor the right place.  Good luck elesewhere Turner.  I liked Jimmy Carter too as a person, but not as a commander in chief. With KU athletics in the red at the moment financially, I don't see where they are going to find even a Larry Brown type football coach.  I am not hoping for a more improved record, I am wanting a winner of a coach in Lawrence, but that will take a miracle. 

Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: November 27, 2011 9:49 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

my question is how do you judge any college coach after just 2 seasons?  None of the guys playing for him were his recruits.  Isn't this game all about what players the coach can bring in????  Isn't it the case that most guys dont' perform until their sophomore/junior seasons at earliest?  I think it's a little premature...but that's just me

Since: Dec 11, 2009
Posted on: November 27, 2011 9:42 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

You must be a Cornhusker fan still in love with Gill. He is a wonderful person, but his team was poorly coached, soft, uncompetitive and disorganized. I have seen some terrible football at KU, but this was the least prepared team week in and week out in the BCS. No one who saw more than a game or two this year thought Gill should keep his job, just that KU wouldn't cough up all of the money to get rid of him. We will see who the new hire is, but the team will not look as bad as it did at times this year.

Since: Dec 23, 2008
Posted on: November 27, 2011 9:31 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

just an FYI, they went to bowls in 2007,2008. How soon you forget the Mangino.  Mangino had the program going in the right direction. I think a BCS bowl win is better than you can ever expect at Kansas. I forget why he was fired, but whatever it was probably it wasn't enough to justify it. I am sure there are plenty of Jayhawk fans lining up beside the Texas Tech fans wondering why the most successful coach in program history was fired.   

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: November 27, 2011 9:27 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

$10 million for two years of work that featured five victories and a 1-16 record in the Big 12?

I challenge anybody to find a better job than that.

Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: November 27, 2011 9:15 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

This is one of the worst stories I've had to read in a while.

People in Love with Kansas football are some of the dumbest, most blind, shortminded, disillusioned fans in the country.
They act as though they have some great football history.  They have never had back to back years where they have gone to bowl games. Did you hear me.  NEVER. Big 6, Big 8, Big 12, Big 10 (now).  NEVER.  So that should tell you that they have made alot of mistakes in hiring and firing coaches.  

They say they want a winning football team.  Well that's not hard, anyone can have a winning team (see the fat mans Orange Bowl team).  What about a winning PROGRAM?  That takes patience.  Sure Gill's record is bad, but 2 years.  Think about it.  Year 1 he adopted a team that had lost 7 straight games. What type of team did he adopt if they had just lost 7 straight games with a coach that had been there for 7 years.  He didn't get a top 100 team. Like the disillusioned in Lawrence will have you think.  Gill made a decision to go young to build a program not a one year wonder.  Remember a program takes patience. What he did was underestimate the time he had to win. He thought he had time to build, but the shortminded felt they must win right now. 

Secondly, Gill's biggest problem was he went somewhere that he was not wanted.  Worst decision you can ever make in life. Never go where you are not wanted.  The then AD was the only one that wanted him.  to much of an uphill battle. Work, Relationships, Resturants, friends, etc. There is and always have been a section KU underbelly that run that program.  See university ticket scandal.  Gill had no chance. I refused to go to that school 31 years ago because of the corruption within it's athletic program.  

Sadness. Sadness because KU is one of the hinden gems in the country, but they don't how to get what they want.

You can bet that 2 things will happen with the next selection.

1) The next coach will be connected to KU's underbelly and circle.
2) He will be given more than 2 years to coach.

KU good luck.

TG learn, live, and move on.  

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: November 27, 2011 9:11 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

At long last, Kansas football fans can take the paper sacks off of their heads! Mister Rogers has been shown the door!!!!

Now bring in June Jones from SMU!

Since: Oct 29, 2006
Posted on: November 27, 2011 8:59 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Scott40  wrote:   "...Hate to say it but the African American coaches aren't given a chance to succeed..."

I hate to say it but Scott, you completely wrong!  And making inane public-comments such as this can only lead to more mis-understanding.   

The one and only factor used by anybody seeking to hire a head-coacho for their football program is how it affects the their financial bottom-line.    Any school in the nation could not care less what color skin a football head-coach happens to have as long as his team is winning,  or it appears to be upon the verge of winning consistantly,  thus ensuring their program will enjoy financial success.    Any
head-coach which can manage to elevate a school's football program up to where it is making lots of money for a school that has recently been down, will be hired and devoutly retained forever...... it does not matter if he is white, pink, black, brown, yellow, or green with purple polka-dots!  


Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: November 27, 2011 8:49 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

I can understand the belief that Tyrone Willingham did not have a fair chance at Notre Dame. Looking at his predecessor and successor, that belief is very valid and brings into questions the morals of Notre Dame.
The morals of Notre Dame? You mean hiring a coach who isn't Catholic to coach them anyway? ND always hired Catholic coaches and made an exception with Willingham. They fired him  because he was a bad recruiter and he lost on the field. They fired him after 3 years because they didn't want to repeat the error they made with Davie who should have been fired after 3 seasons. They then fired Weis after 5 seasons. Morals? Puhleeze. It was about performance and they were right. He went to Washington and dismantled that program. They looked pretty darn smart dumping him before he did more damage. He almost destroyed their recruiting base.

Oh and let's not forget Weis had won 3 Super Bowls with New England as OC and was a Notre Dame alum. When he was hired, he was the hot assistant coaching prospect. Why let fact and reality get in the way. ND to their credit fired him went things went south in his 5th year.

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