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Kansas fires Turner Gill

Posted on: November 27, 2011 5:31 pm
Edited on: November 27, 2011 5:31 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

Yet another coach has been relieved of his duties as Black Sunday continues in the college world. This time it's Kansas head coach Turner Gill, as the school announced on Sunday evening that Gill had been fired after two seasons with the Jayhawks.

“After a thorough evaluation of our football program,” said Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger in a release, “I have concluded that new leadership is necessary to place us on the path toward competing for championships in the Big 12 Conference.  I come to this conclusion reluctantly, because I have the utmost respect for Turner Gill as a quality individual who wants only the best for the young men he coaches.” 

Recruiting coordinator Reggie Mitchell has been named interim head coach.

Zenger also said that the school will begin its search immediately. Kansas also intends to pay the $6 million it owes Gill for the final three years of the five-year $10 million contract he signed before the 2010 season.

In his two seasons at Kansas, the Jayhawks went 5-19 including a 1-16 record in the Big 12 and lost 10 games by 30 or more points.

Since: Dec 3, 2009
Posted on: November 27, 2011 8:02 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill


Since: Jan 27, 2007
Posted on: November 27, 2011 7:46 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Scott40:  When Turner Gill was hired, a number of people were confident he would do well because he had one winning season at Buffalo.  They made his one winning season seem like a complete turnaround of a formerly shabby program.  His supporters said we had no idea how hard it was to recruit and win at Buffalo.  The fact is that then KU AD Lew Perkins and Gill's supporters had less understanding of how hard a job it is to recruit and win at Kansas against teams like Oklahoma, Texas, Oklahoma State, Nebraska, and other big-time programs.  Turner Gill may have been able to maintain that success at Buffalo for a few seasons, but there is a tremendous difference between Buffalo and the Big XII. In hindsight, maybe he should have moved up the ladder to a team in C-USA or the Big East before going to the Big XII 

Since you seem to want to view this through the perspective of race, understand that the opportunities that African-American coaches are receiving in D-1 are often the hardest turnarounds to effect.  The expectations at ND are ridiculous (ask Lou Holtz who won an NCAA championship there but had to leave).  Coach Willingham should probably have stayed at Washington, where I think he was doing well.  Sylvester Croom took over at Mississipi State, traditionally an SEC West bottom dweller.  

Nobody is being given several years anymore to make an improvement.  Gill's predecessor, Mark Mangino, did not get KU to a BCS bowl for several years, but compared with the previous coach, Terry Allen, there was competitiveness from the second year onward.  In fairness to Coach Gill, there was not round-robin scheduling in the Big XII when Mangino was coach.  In our Orange Bowl year, OK State, Baylor, and A&M were not as strong as they are now, and KU did not play Oklahoma, Texas, or Texas Tech.

As for why the results have to come faster, please take a look at the effect conference realignment has had on the need for success in football; Kansas, despite having one of the premier basketball programs over the entire history of the game, was left in quite a precarious position because of the weakness of its football program.  And that happened despite the fact that KU is in the top 20 or 30 at earning revenue through its sports programs.  I believe Turner Gill was in way over his head at Kansas, and I hope that his successor is able to hit the deck running, whatever his ethnicity.  If KU had the success under Turner Gill that Houston is having under Kevin Sumlin, the point would be moot.  Word around Eastern Kansas is that Sumlin was on the short list when Gill was selected and that Sumlin was not interested in the job.  I cannot fault Mr Gill for his ambition, and I wish him well in his next stint (he may become OC at Nebraska).

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Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: November 27, 2011 7:13 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

@BigDaddy:  Ya, Turner Gill and Bo Pelini were the only 2 people Osborne officially interviewed for the Husker job (rumors swirled that Arkansas' Houston Nut interviewed as well but that was later refuted).  The same Osborne that coached Gill in the "scoring explosion" offense in '83, and coached along side Gill for a decade on the sidelines.  Gill is a superb human being that is rare to come by, but I think he needs more time at a smaller school before he should try a Kansas sized job again.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 27, 2011 7:06 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Big mistake by the Jayhawks. Turner Gill never got a fair chance.

Since: Dec 10, 2008
Posted on: November 27, 2011 7:06 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Come home to Nebraska...

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: November 27, 2011 7:04 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Gotta go to the race card?  C'mon.  Turner Gill is a great guy, but he didn't get it done.  If the program had shown the slighest hint of improvement, I'd say he deserves another year.  But Kansas was awful, dreadful, miserable.  He'll need to try again somewhere else, and he'll likely get the chance.  I hope he does.

Since: Oct 4, 2011
Posted on: November 27, 2011 7:01 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

This is the new world of college athletics! It is a what have you done for me lately world. Coaches that do well move on, if the coach doesn't do well, then the school moves on REGARDLESS of the contract. Contracts have so many opt out clauses that it essentially means NOTHING these days. If you're not performing up to standards, there is no reason to even "give him a chance to fulfill the life of the contract." Like it or not, whether it is fair or not, THAT'S HOW IT IS!  

Despite the scandals Mangino created, he WON. Now KU is back to where they were pre-Mangino era. You can't get blown out by 40 every week and barely beat teams like Northern Illinois and expect to keep your job. It's not the fact his team was losing its HOW they were losing! You must at the VERY LEAST remain somewhat competitive or you don't get the luxury of playing out your contract. Clearly, you're a moron and aren't from Kansas and don't know how fed up (after just TWO years) we are. Has nothing to do with race...yet performance.

Since: Jul 15, 2011
Posted on: November 27, 2011 6:45 pm

Kansas fires Turner Gill

Welcome to the big leagues; coaching in the Big 12 ain't the same a coaching at Buffalo.  The Jayhawks should be on the phone to Houston trying to land Kevin Sumlin before Arizona State steals him.  Otherwise, basketball season will be starting in August in Lawrenece next year.

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