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Final BCS Standings Top 10 Reactions

Posted on: December 4, 2011 10:04 pm
Edited on: December 5, 2011 1:04 pm
 


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On Sunday night the final BCS standings were released. Despite Oklahoma State's impressive victory against Oklahoma to capture their first Big 12 Championship in program history, the Cowboys were left on the outside looking in of the BCS National Championship Game.  Now it's Game of the Century II in New Orleans to decide the top team in college football.  Love it or hate it, that is the way the numbers added up.

You can check out a rundown of the Top 10 below, with some thoughts from our College Football Bloggers. For a full breakdown of the Top 25 teams in the BCS formula, you can check out the comprehensive standings.

1. LSU:How dominant was the season just put together by Les Miles's Tigers? This might be the first time in the BCS era that a team has clinched a share of the national title before they even play the national title game. Considering that the best BCS championship opponent Alabama can do vs. the Tigers head-to-head is a 1-1 record (with a home loss, no less), and that LSU has a wider collection of quality wins and the SEC title in their back pocket, we'd suggest that AP voters consider awarding their No. 1 ranking to LSU regardless of what happens Jan. 9. Of course, the way they've played thus far this season -- and how well they're likely to play in home-away-from-home New Orleans -- the Tigers may not need the charity. - Jerry Hinnen

2. Alabama: Lost in the controversy over whether the Crimson Tide should have slotted into the national title game over Oklahoma State is that now that they have, their selection caps an incredible four-year run for Nick Saban's program: three BCS bowls, two perfect regular seasons, two SEC West titles, a 47-4 overall record, and now a pair of BCS championship appearances. Of course, that also heightens the stakes even further for the Tide as they head to New Orleans; a second loss to LSU will only drive home the point that for all of those accomplishments, Saban would still be sitting on a single SEC title and lone national title to Miles's two. - JH


3. Oklahoma State: .009 points. That's all that separated Oklahoma State from a trip to New Orleans to face LSU for the national title. Or, in football terms, about 12 inches on a Quinn Sharp field goal attempt in Ames, Iowa. Still, as disappointing as it may be for Oklahoma State to miss out on a title chance, there's still plenty to be thrilled about this season. The Cowboys not only won their first Big 12 title, but they also did it by throttling Oklahoma to finish the season. Plus, the Fiesta Bowl against Stanford isn't exactly a terrible consolation prize, so while the sting will last a bit, it's going to wear off eventually. Tom Fornelli 

4. Stanford:The Cardinal have back-to-back trips to a BCS bowl game thanks to finishing in the top four and snagging a trip to the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma State. It gives Andrew Luck a marquee chance to end his college career on a high note against a defense that has been a turnover-forcing machine. They lost out on a Pac-12 title game but the consolation prize of a trip to the desert and a shot at ending up in the top three would be part of a historic run for a school known more for their alumni off the field than on it. - Bryan Fischer

5. Oregon:The Pac-12 champions are making their way to Pasadena after winning the league's first ever championship game against an overmatched UCLA team. The Ducks come in on a mission: win their first BCS bowl under Chip Kelly and the Rose Bowl for the first time since 1917. Should be an interesting clash of styles as the fast-paced offense takes on a Wisconsin team known for efficiently moving down the field. - BF

6. Arkansas:On the one hand, who knows how high the Hogs could have flown this season if they hadn't been in the SEC West? Swap them out with Oklahoma State and maybe it's the Razorbacks who are bucking for second and the Cowboys licking their wounds from a pair of blowout losses and a third-place divisional finish. Then again, there's the little fact that the Hogs never beat a team better than South Carolina, defeated just two teams with winning records, and struggled more badly with Ole Miss than any other team in the conference. Maybe the Razorbacks were unfortunate they didn't do better than 10 wins and the Cotton Bowl. Maybe they're lucky they've gotten that far. - BF

7. Boise State: Another one-loss season for the Broncos ends in a series of "What If's" as the missed field goal against TCU has cost Boise State a spot in a BCS bowl. Unfortunately, the trends are beginning to mount for Chris Petersen's squad. While Boise State is proud to celebrate their sixth Top 10 finish in the last eight final BCS standings, this is fourth time the Broncos have finished in the Top 10 and NOT been invited to a BCS game. Instead it will be another trip to Las Vegas for the Maaco Bowl against Arizona State, their first showdown with the Sun Devils since 1996. - Chip Patterson

8. Kansas State:There's plenty to be happy about here, and also reason for Kansas State fans to be upset. You can easily argue that Kansas State deserves to be playing in a BCS game this season more than either Michigan or Virginia Tech due to the Wildcats finishing ahead of both schools in the BCS rankings. Unfortunately that's just not the way the BCS works. Either way, I think it's safe to say that if you had told Kansas State fans before the season began that the team would go 10-2 in the regular season and finish the year in the Cotton Bowl against Arkansas they'd have all jumped at the chance. - TF

9. South Carolina: One of these things is not like the other. Of the top 10 teams in the BCS standings, the other nine all earned either a conference title or serious consideration for a BCS at-large bid. And then there's the Gamecocks, well shut out thanks to ranking a distant fourth in the SEC pecking order. No one will claim this was a vintage year for the SEC, with claims the league was "top heavy" entirely accurate. But with four of the top nine teams in the final BCS standings, it's fair to say that top was heavy indeed. - JH


10. Wisconsin:The Badgers are the only team from the Big Ten to finish the regular season ranked in the top ten, though they aren't the only Big Ten team that will be playing in a BCS bowl game this year. Wisconsin is headed to the Rose Bowl after a thrilling victory against Michigan State in the inaugural Big Ten Championship Game, and going to the Rose Bowl in consecutive seasons is nothing to be ashamed of. Still, it's got to be hard to get past the fact that the Badgers are basically two last second prayers away from being 13-0 and headed to New Orleans. - TF

Finally, the luckiest teams in all of the land: Virginia Tech and Michigan.  The Hokies and Wolverines fall at 11 and 12 in the final BCS standings, and will face each other in the Sugar Bowl on Jan. 3.

11. Virginia Tech: Not that the Hokies themselves have done anything to deserve it, but the haters of the BCS's current selection process just got a new poster program. Plenty of teams with questionable credentials have been granted BCS admission before (heck, the Hokies will be playing one of them in the Sugar), but it's been a while since a team without a single win over a top-25 team and so clearly second-best in a back-of-the-BCS-pack conference got this kind of preferential treatment. That's not to say the Hokies haven't had an outstanding season--those 11 wins didn't fall into their lap. But when compared to Kansas State or Boise State, it's just another signal that however much the BCS likes to blather that "every game counts", some things still count far more than the games. - JH

12. Michigan: It's crazy how things can change, isn't it? Michigan went from being a program that was routinely letting its fan base down back to the BCS in one season under Brady Hoke. If you had told Michigan fans they'd end the season in the Sugar Bowl back in August, would they have believed you? Of course, the argument can also be made that there were other teams more deserving than the Wolverines, but this is the way things ended up. You can't chastise the Michigan fan base for being so enticing to BCS bowl games who are just as interested in selling seats as they are compelling matchups. (Though you should probably send a thank you card to Jim Delany.) - TF

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Since: Dec 6, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:21 am
 

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Thers is a little known codicil to the BCS Constitution, Section 16.23.7(a) which states that "No team which loses to Iowa State shall be allowed into the Championship game."


Signed Dean Wormer 



Since: Dec 6, 2011
Posted on: December 6, 2011 11:15 am
 

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May i say we will truly miss you.  Love you , mean it



Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: December 6, 2011 9:01 am
 

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The important thing to remember here is that other than the alleged BCS Championship Game, all the other BCS Bowls have very few restrictions placed on them.  The Rose Bowl has agreements with both the Big 10 and Pac 12, so they will always get their Champions, no matter how bad a record those Champions may have.  The same holds true for the Fiesta Bowl, tied in with the Big 12-2, The Sugar Bowl, tied in with the SEC, and the Orange Bowl, tied in with the ACC.  This year, there were only four choices that the Bowls had to make.  The BCS rules dictated that Stanford be one of those choices, and the Big East Champ be another choice, so there were only two actual choices that had to be made that did not involve a top 4 BCS Team or an AQ Conference Championship team.  Since
Arkansas was eliminated by BCS rules (only two teams per Conference can play in a BCS game), the Sugar Bowl went with the two teams that could draw in the most money for themselves and the City of New Orleans. 

What people have to realize is that the BCS is NOT designed to have the best teams play in their Bowl Games.  That only applies to their alleged "Championship" game.  You have two 3 loss teams playing in the Orange Bowl while two 1 loss teams do not play in any BCS Bowl.  Had UCLA upset Oregon, you would have had a 7-6 team in the Rose Bowl.  The bottom line is simple.  The BCS really has nothing to do with mathing the best teams in the ccountry against each other.  All they care about is their tie-ins and making money.



Since: Aug 24, 2007
Posted on: December 6, 2011 12:07 am
 

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HEY BF... ARKANSAS IS LUCKY TO BE THERE? It is your who are lucky there is enough little 8 people to let you be on here. Most people have to EARN their way.



Since: Aug 24, 2007
Posted on: December 5, 2011 11:57 pm
 

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MY GOD SUCH CRYING..... GET A LIFE




Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: December 5, 2011 10:58 pm
 

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Part of the problem is what the computers define as a QUALITY win or loss. For example, there are some teams that should not be in the Top 25 and only are because of the computers. Namely Texas (who had a losing record in conference) and Missouri who finally dropped out after this weekend. Now you can make a similar argument for why Auburn is in the Top 25 with a 500 conference record, BUT they did beat a Top 10 team (South Carolina) on the road. In addition, there are a couple of teams that are not in the Top 25 because Alabama beat them. That said, let’s examine REAL quality wins, quality losses, and real game stats and see who comes out right in the polls and why this will back up what Nick Saban voted on his Coaches ballot.

 

To determine a REAL quality win, that is determined by not just where the team beaten currently ranks, but also by who beat that team being considered quality OR if a team has more than 3 losses, then that is not a quality win. Any win over a Top 10 team is quality. If that team beaten is not in the Top 10 and lost to an unranked team, then it is not quality. For example: Oklahoma lost 2 games. They are not in the top 10. One of those was to UNRANKED Texas Tech so that is not a quality win because the bias toward the Big 12 is the only reason that Oklahoma is ranked so high. A loss to a current Top 20 team is considered a quality loss. A loss to a Top 10 ranked team currently is a double quality loss. A summary of the results is at the bottom.

 

LSU

KEY WINS

BEAT #5 Oregon who only lost to ranked teams (counting USC’s ranking in AP Poll) QUALITY

BEAT #23 West Virginia who lost to UNRANKED Louisville NOT QUALITY

BEAT #25 Auburn who had more than 3 losses NOT QUALITY

BEAT #2 Alabama in OT who only lost to #1 QUALITY

BEAT #6 Arkansas who only lost to #1 and #2 QUALITY

BEAT #16 Georgia who only lost to ranked teams QUALITY

 

KEY LOSSES

No losses QUALITY (3 points because they get an extra 2 for no losses to make even with a team with one quality loss)

 

MARGIN OF VICTORY (Higher the better) – 27.9

 

POINTS FOR RANK + POINTS AGAINST RANK (Lower the better) – 12+ 2 = 14

 

ALABAMA

KEY WINS

Beat #22 Penn State who only lost to ranked teams QUALITY

Beat #6 Arkansas who only lost to #1 and #2 by 24 points. The same Arkansas that beat Texas A&M by 4. The same Texas A&M that OSU only beat by 1. (That is why OSU- LSU would look like Arkansas – LSU) QUALITY

BEAT #25 Auburn who had more than 3 losses NOT QUALITY

 

KEY LOSSES

Lost to #1 LSU in OT and never let them in the end zone. Out played them statistically. Had 3 more scoring opportunities in regulation than did LSU. The only 1 loss team that lost to a team ranked above them. QUALITY x 2

 

MARGIN OF VICTORY (Higher the better) – 27.2

 

POINTS FOR RANK + POINTS AGAINST RANK (Lower the better) – 16 + 1 = 17

 

OKLAHOMA STATE

KEY WINS

Beat #24 Texas who is only ranked in the computers and had more than 3 losses NOT QUALITY

Beat #12 Baylor who lost to UNRANKED Texas A&M (who also lost to Arkansas) NOT QUALITY

Beat #8 Kansas State who only lost to a ranked Oklahoma QUALITY

Beat #14 Oklahoma who lost to UNRANKED Texas Tech and is highly overrated. NOT QUALITY

 

KEY LOSSES

Lost to Iowa State who is the 8<sup>th</sup> best team in a conference with a feaux conference championship game that kind of just happened because of the 2 teams in it. ONCE AGAIN, OSU LOST TO AN UNRANKED TEAM. Comparable to Vanderbilt in the SEC by record who Alabama beat 34-0. NOT QUALITY (should count as Double Not Quality since they are the only one loss team that lost to an unranked team but I am being nice)

 

MARGIN OF VICTORY (Higher the better) – 23.5

 

POINTS FOR RANK + POINTS AGAINST RANK (Lower the better) – 2 + 61 = 63

 

STANFORD

KEY WINS

Beat #5 USC (AP Poll) Top 10 team QUALITY

 

KEY LOSSES

Lost to #5 Oregon who only lost to ranked teams QUALITY x 2

 

MARGIN OF VICTORY (Higher the better) – 23.3

 

POINTS FOR RANK + POINTS AGAINST RANK (Lower the better) – 5 + 23 = 28

 

BOISE STATE

KEY WINS

BEAT #16 Georgia who only lost to ranked teams QUALITY

 

KEY LOSSES

Lost to #18  TCU QUALITY

 

MARGIN OF VICTORY (Higher the better) – 25.8

 

POINTS FOR RANK + POINTS AGAINST RANK (Lower the better) – 7 + 10 = 17

 

SUMMARY

 

LSU  –  7 Quality points  (1) , #1 in Margin of victory, #1 in Points for and against ranking Average = 1+1+1 = 1.0

Alabama     -  4 Quality points (2), #2 in Margin of victory, #2 in Points for and against ranking Average = 2+2+2 = 2.0

Oklahoma St – 1 Quality point (5), #4 in Margin of victory, #5 in Points for and against ranking Average = 5+4+5 = 4.7

Stanford – 3 Quality points (3), #5 in Margin of Victory, #4 in Points for and against ranking Average = 3+5+4 = 4.0

Boise State –  2 Quality Points (4), #3 in Margin of Victory, #2 in Points for an against ranking Average = 4+3+2 = 3.0

 

Based on Quality Points Only

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OVERALL RANKINGS BASED ON REAL NUMBERS and not taking the computer’s word for it who is a quality opponent.

 

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I believe this clearly shows without using bias and only using current rankings where the real quality wins and losses are that the Big 12 is very overrated and that the BCS did it’s job. This is not to say a plus 1 would not work too, but the problem lies there in the fact that based on real numbers and real quality wins and losses, OSU would get left out of that too.




Since: Dec 5, 2011
Posted on: December 5, 2011 10:56 pm
 

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That is the best way to describe this matchup. And I am certain that many seal their lips after the game is over. And my question is, if OSU gets be by stanford, how can the complain anymore?



Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: December 5, 2011 10:55 pm
 

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A couple of years ago, the New England Patriots were undefeated going into the SUper Bowl and the Giants beat them. That is what Championship games do. Show the winner on the final stage of the season. In college basketball, 2 teams could technically play 4 times including the National Championship. Even if Team A crushes team B 3 times staright and then Team B wins by one in the Championship, Team B wins the Championship. Fortunately the LSU-BAMA first game was essentially played to a draw. I am not saying LSU does not get perks for winning. They got to win an additional ring for winning the SEC which every Bama player would love to have. However, every Bama player also feels they are the best team. They outplayed LSU. One may say LSU did not make the mistakes. However, LSU never had a chance to. Bama had 5 scoring opportunities in regulation. LSU had 2. Sure Bama should have scored, but at least they had the chance. Bama players feel like they blew it. They drive from the 5 and 10 yard line time after time and could not finish their drives. LSU did nothing. Their offense only got inside the Bama 40 one time the entire game. LSU even got the ball once on the Bama 15 and then lost yardage on that drive. That is why the rematch is necessary. LSU feels they are the best because they are undefeated. Bama feels that they beat themselves and want to prove they are the better team. So now we get to see the most competitive evenly matched National Championship game probably in history.




Since: Oct 18, 2009
Posted on: December 5, 2011 10:48 pm
 

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So having a good game gets bad ratings? A competitive game gets bad ratings? Alabama and LSU are 2 of the largest footbal markets in the country. We have the GOC part 2 with the marketing angkle of "Can either team break down the other defense?" I want to know. EVery Bama player feels like they are the nest team because they outplayed LSU and made their own mistakes. Five scoring opportunities in regulation compared to 2 for LSU. LSU did not make the mistakes, but did not put themselves in position to make them. LSU's offense only broke the Bama 40 yard line 1 time. Rematches are GREAT when the first one is essentially a draw. Rocky 2 was the best rated Rocky movie ever.

On the other side...LSU-OSU would look like LSU - Arkansas or Bama - Arkansas. How do we know? The common factor. Texas A&M. Arkansas beat A&M by 4. OSU beat A&M by 1. Bama & LSU both beat Arkansas by 24 and did not even try to score in the 4th qtr. Basically there are 2 teams with men and the rest this year are boys. Let the men get out there hit each other and see who comes out on top. This will be the most competitive Nat Champ game in a long time.



Since: Dec 5, 2011
Posted on: December 5, 2011 8:22 pm
 

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Well said; perfect in fact.  The 'King has no Clothes'.



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