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Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Posted on: December 26, 2011 11:19 am
Edited on: December 26, 2011 11:20 am
Posted by Tom Fornelli

One of the main critiques of the current bowl system is how schools, more often than not, lose money by going to a bowl game. This year is no different, as Clemson is finding out that its first trip to a BCS bowl game is going to leave the school in the red.

According to The Post and Courier, with ticket sales where they are currently, Clemson is going to lose about $180,000 thanks to their trip to the Orange Bowl.

As of last week, Clemson had only been able to sell about half of the 17,500 tickets it had to buy from the Orange Bowl for the low, low price of around half a million dollars. Clemson will get a $1.75 million bowl allowance from the ACC, but all in all the trip is going to cost the school $1.91 million. This includes the price of the unsold tickets along with meals, lodging and travel costs for the football team, band, cheerleaders and support staff.

Though there are other benefits according to Clemson athletic director Terry Don Phillips.

"There is a perception problem; it's not a windfall," said Phillips. "You just want to be able to break even. Sometimes you don't even break even. But there are significant benefits. You get some extra practice time. And anytime you can get on national television, it continues exposure for your program, which is very significant value."

Yes, and that exposure for the program helps in things like recruiting, which helps bring even better players to Clemson. Players that will help Clemson consistently win and get to bowl games and lose more money.

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: December 28, 2011 6:30 am

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

@ wvu_93 : Not sure what you were drinking when you chose to go on your erroneous rant about the ACC , but man that must be some killer radiator liquor bcause it has you unable to reason or recognize facts. First of all hillbilly , Clemson has sold about 3000 more tickets of its allotment than WVU . That the two schools will both be paying through the nose for not selling their 17500 allotted tickets is a shame , but the games midweek , workday and school night timeslot is hurting the effort to sell tickets is a no brainer. Also , Clemson fans are smart enough and savvy enough to understand that private shillers like stub hub and craigslist have the same tickets at greatly reduced prices when compared to the tickets sold through the university allotment. I bought a lower level seat near the thirty yard line on the Tiger side for 65 dollars , the same seat thru the school would have cost me 125 bucks...mama didnt raise a fool . It is sad that fans like you exist who think that they are gravy on a biscuit and that their school is all that and a handshake , fact is ... you just wanted to bash the ACC and Clemson for your own personal satisfaction. Good job . When you turn on your snowy , analog signal tv on the night of the Orange Bowl , dont try to adjust the color , there really is that much more Orange in the stands than Blue and Yeller....Go Tigers !

Since: Mar 30, 2011
Posted on: December 28, 2011 2:22 am

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

I'm sure that Clemson could find more than the 180k in their budgeted bowl expenses....for instance, Charter busses from Clemson S.C. to Miami.  There are tons of expenses that could be trimmed.  However, Clemson's athletic department is in the black and their football operations support and fund all the other programs, therefore, maybe the athletic department and school administration consider this to be a thank you for all the supporters and boosters who make that possible.

Since: Mar 15, 2007
Posted on: December 28, 2011 1:41 am

Rent a damn band

Hire a band for the night from a local high school or university.  Just how much "support staff" is coming along?  Hopefully no more than on a trip to a place like Wake Forest.  I guess if the bowl game is just a reason to party hard and blow money, then what the heck.

Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: December 27, 2011 10:08 pm

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Yet another reason the ACC with an automatic BCS qualifier is and always will be a joke, they don't travel.  Most quality schools including the Big East who was always the stepchild of the BCS, never had trouble with ticket sales in any year.  To further how much of a joke this article is, how far is Clemson from Miami, a lot farther than Morgantown and we're not complaining or staying home, we're coming in full force and our alotment was sold long ago.  We need to get away from this smokescreen of a system of conferences with automatic bids and go back to letting the bowls select whowill come and improve the economy of the host city like they did years ago. The Big 12, SEC, Big 10 and Pac 12 will still be there no questions asked.

Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: December 27, 2011 7:56 pm

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

I get the point.  At the same time, there's a lot of fat that could be cut from every school's bowl budget.  How many thousands of dollars could be saved by not paying for the spouses of all the presidents, coaches, school officials, and hangers ons who get a free trip?  The universities don't all complain, because they know the average fan and booster would gag if they knew how much booze, trinkets, taxis, food, and excesses are charged to the bowl budget.  Some of those band members are eating twice as much as the team's 300 pound offensive tackle.  Is that right!?  Here's an idea:  The fat band members who don't make a certain weight go on the IR list.  Well, that will injure their feelings so it makes sense to me.  It will save thousands of dollars or save the lives of several plump 18 to 22 year olds.

Since: Aug 26, 2011
Posted on: December 27, 2011 7:07 pm

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

This is why Notre Dame stays independent, they make money on all Bowl games as they get to keep 100% of the payout.  Other teams have to share it with then leagues they are in.

On top of that who in their right mind wants to go see a big east acc bcs game, obviously not even the fans of the teams

Since: May 8, 2010
Posted on: December 27, 2011 6:31 pm

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

All these bowl games are about one thing and one thing only money. Its about bringing money to the school program and company whoever is sponsoring specific bowl. Every team and company wants a piece of the pie; but i do agree there are too many bowl games. And the selection of teams that are being invited to majority of these bowl games is absurb its almost disgusting to watch. The only two great BCS games that are worth watching are the rose bowl and the fiesta bowl. No body wants to see a rematch of a number one and a number 2 bash heads again. SEC coaches should not have a say which teams get invited to the BCS title game. OSU and stanford both had great seasons. OSU's only lost came in tragity, how they are not worthy to take on the number one team in the nation is beside me. LSU is going to dominate Alambama, the BCS is designed to see two great teams that would not normally play each other in the regular season. Etc...a great defense like LSU and a great offense....every college football fan in the nation wants to see Justin Blackmon WR go heads up against Morris Clariborne CB...two of the best players at there respective positions. Lets get real BCS and voters, SEC doesnt deserve to be in the BCS every time just because. Playoff system???

Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: December 27, 2011 6:06 pm

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Leave your band at home or get band to raise the money to pay their way. That would save more than double the 180 that you are "losing". OR here's an idea....Find a way in the budget to save $180k so you break even, its called a budget cut. Or even better get some fans that don't suck and will cough up some cash to support their team. The cost of big time football is high...Now we know why the SEC had no interest in Clemkins!

Since: May 27, 2011
Posted on: December 27, 2011 5:44 pm

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Clemson sells about 560,000 tickets to 7 home games..TV and Radio revenue,suites, etc..their football program supports their entire sports program plus academic programs..180k is drop in in the bucket of statistics for this school..they won't lose a dime

Since: Dec 20, 2011
Posted on: December 27, 2011 4:20 pm

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

The BCS system is designed for only one purpose: to generate massive amounts of money. If schools and more importantly- the players, started receiving a reasonable percentage of the profits they themselves generate and deserve, the BCS and bowl organizers would realize a big drop in profits. A playoff system makes a great deal of sense, but it has a major hurdle to overcome with all of the BCS people currently defrauding the players, school and fans/alumni. It won't be fixed until either the NCAA stops being so cowardly, or until a large antitrust investigation is launched by the Congress.

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