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Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Posted on: December 26, 2011 11:19 am
Edited on: December 26, 2011 11:20 am
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

One of the main critiques of the current bowl system is how schools, more often than not, lose money by going to a bowl game. This year is no different, as Clemson is finding out that its first trip to a BCS bowl game is going to leave the school in the red.

According to The Post and Courier, with ticket sales where they are currently, Clemson is going to lose about $180,000 thanks to their trip to the Orange Bowl.

As of last week, Clemson had only been able to sell about half of the 17,500 tickets it had to buy from the Orange Bowl for the low, low price of around half a million dollars. Clemson will get a $1.75 million bowl allowance from the ACC, but all in all the trip is going to cost the school $1.91 million. This includes the price of the unsold tickets along with meals, lodging and travel costs for the football team, band, cheerleaders and support staff.

Though there are other benefits according to Clemson athletic director Terry Don Phillips.

"There is a perception problem; it's not a windfall," said Phillips. "You just want to be able to break even. Sometimes you don't even break even. But there are significant benefits. You get some extra practice time. And anytime you can get on national television, it continues exposure for your program, which is very significant value."

Yes, and that exposure for the program helps in things like recruiting, which helps bring even better players to Clemson. Players that will help Clemson consistently win and get to bowl games and lose more money.
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Since: Aug 26, 2011
Posted on: December 27, 2011 9:58 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Why in the world is this game on a Wednesday night? By doing that you pretty much throw out a large number or alumni, fans, and students by doing that. With having it that night, you make people have to use atleast 2 vacation days to go to a game. Then you have the people who work in finance who have month end closing that week and cannot miss a day. Then comes the people who have to work X amount of hours before they can use their first vacation day of the new year. Just shows how little though the so called committee put towards this. Make the games on a weekend like they always used to or on New Years.......


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Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: December 27, 2011 9:24 am
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Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: December 27, 2011 9:20 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Everything I read says that Clemson got 17,500 tickets that they had to sell and have only sold about 9,000 through the University.  Further about15,000 tickets were sold either through the secondary market at reduced prices, or directly from the Orange bowl, so expect about 24,000 Clemson fans at the game. I know I recieved info from IPTAY about the tickets with prices being from $75 for upper corner end zone to $250 for sideline seats. The timing of the game makes me unable to go as it is on a Wednesday night. If we were playing on a holiday or weekend, I would be there, we did go to Charlotte for the ACC championship game, which was quite convienent for Tiger fans as it sold out with 45-50,000 Clemson fans. Attendance is not a problem for Clemson fans as we sell 56,000+ season tickets every year at home and do travel well, so the author should tell the whole story. I noticed the crowd at the Independence Bowl looked like maybe 5,000 fans (generous), and Missouri is a lot closer to Shreveport than Miami is to Clemson.



Since: Dec 17, 2006
Posted on: December 27, 2011 9:20 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Everything I read says that Clemson got 17,500 tickets that they had to sell and have only sold about 9,000 through the University.  Further about15,000 tickets were sold either through the secondary market at reduced prices, or directly from the Orange bowl, so expect about 24,000 Clemson fans at the game. I know I recieved info from IPTAY about the tickets with prices being from $75 for upper corner end zone to $250 for sideline seats. The timing of the game makes me unable to go as it is on a Wednesday night. If we were playing on a holiday or weekend, I would be there, we did go to Charlotte for the ACC championship game, which was quite convienent for Tiger fans as it sold out with 45-50,000 Clemson fans. Attendance is not a problem for Clemson fans as we sell 56,000+ season tickets every year at home and do travel well, so the author should tell the whole story. I noticed the crowd at the Independence Bowl looked like maybe 5,000 fans (generous), and Missouri is a lot closer to Shreveport than Miami is to Clemson.



Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: December 27, 2011 8:48 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Given a 53-member football team, a staff of say 25 coaches, 24 cheerleaders, and a 64-man band, how can the trip cost $1.91 million?  Even if $250,000 is the un-sold ticket cost, that still makes $1.66 million for  166 people -- that's $10,000 per person.  What exactly are they doing on this trip that could cost $10k per person?  Is everyone flying business class, and staying in penthouse suites?



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: December 27, 2011 8:11 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

They lose money. You have now been told
you should change your nickname to Mr.Gullible



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: December 27, 2011 8:08 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

if they want to show a profit just make them include the bribes, junkets and payoffs to the University administrations in the balance sheet.



Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: December 27, 2011 6:57 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

It's pretty obvious that we are not getting the full balance sheets reported here.  A lot of those balance sheets, if not all, are there as part of the public record, but no one seems to collate them to tell the real story.  I would like to know, given everything, including the TV payouts, what Clemson's real balance sheet looks like.  Are school officials really stupid enough to sign on to something which they have a pretty good idea will cost them this kind of money OVERALL.  Pardon my cynicism, but I would just like to know the whole picture.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 27, 2011 4:17 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Look at the total conference shared income from these bowl games and tell me they loose money.
They lose money. You have now been told.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 27, 2011 4:14 am
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

completly incorrect....Clemson not only gets the money from their game but a share in all other ACC bowl games including Virginia Techs completly undesrved $20 million payout for the other BCS bowl.

Its a complete scam when these schools cry poor mouth......and this doesnt even count the bribes
You do know that Virginia Tech's payout isn't anywhere near $20 million, right? BCS rules say a team only gets $4 million when it's the conference's second team in. $20 million is Clemson and Virginia Tech's take COMBINED from the BCS games, which gets split 12 ways. That's why Clemson (and probably Virginia Tech) will lose money on these games.


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