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Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Posted on: December 26, 2011 11:19 am
Edited on: December 26, 2011 11:20 am
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

One of the main critiques of the current bowl system is how schools, more often than not, lose money by going to a bowl game. This year is no different, as Clemson is finding out that its first trip to a BCS bowl game is going to leave the school in the red.

According to The Post and Courier, with ticket sales where they are currently, Clemson is going to lose about $180,000 thanks to their trip to the Orange Bowl.

As of last week, Clemson had only been able to sell about half of the 17,500 tickets it had to buy from the Orange Bowl for the low, low price of around half a million dollars. Clemson will get a $1.75 million bowl allowance from the ACC, but all in all the trip is going to cost the school $1.91 million. This includes the price of the unsold tickets along with meals, lodging and travel costs for the football team, band, cheerleaders and support staff.

Though there are other benefits according to Clemson athletic director Terry Don Phillips.

"There is a perception problem; it's not a windfall," said Phillips. "You just want to be able to break even. Sometimes you don't even break even. But there are significant benefits. You get some extra practice time. And anytime you can get on national television, it continues exposure for your program, which is very significant value."

Yes, and that exposure for the program helps in things like recruiting, which helps bring even better players to Clemson. Players that will help Clemson consistently win and get to bowl games and lose more money.
Comments

Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2011 7:50 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K


Actually, what you wrote is nonsense. Schools are not making money on bowl games. Schools are actually bleeding money on these games and have been for year





completly incorrect....Clemson not only gets the money from their game but a share in all other ACC bowl games including Virginia Techs completly undesrved $20 million payout for the other BCS bowl.

Its a complete scam when these schools cry poor mouth......and this doesnt even count the bribes



Since: Jan 15, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2011 7:25 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

I would just bring the cheerleaders and leave the team at home. They will be a hell of alot better to watch than this game.
Anyone who thinks these schools lose money on these bowls are mistaken. Last year Indiana's share was Iemember right 20.8 million and I don't even know if they played in a bowl. It was their share for belonging to the Big 10.  



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 26, 2011 7:02 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

OR,.....maybe Clemson doesnt really need to spend $2 million dollars to get the team to a game. Does the entire entourage need to go?

 There is really no reason for any adminustration to go ...im sure the bowl games can just fedex their bribes.
BCS rules. You have to bring your band and cheerleaders to the game.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 26, 2011 7:01 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

I thought the fans of Clemson would be better than this.  Evidently not.  But, as far as losing money on bowl games, that is such a crock that I am surprised that this even gets written.  Clemson will get plenty of money from the other ACC teams and their bowl matchups, just like those teams will make money off of Clemson's BCS spot.  Not "breaking even" on this game means little when you get money from 8 or 9 other games without any expense attached to them.  If schools were not making money on bowl games, you can bet there would be a playoff by now.  Schools are making plenty of money.  Please stop with the nonsense.
Actually, what you wrote is nonsense. Schools are not making money on bowl games. Schools are actually bleeding money on these games and have been for years. Connecticut, for example, lost $1.8 million on making the Fiesta Bowl. This is failing to break even on the games AFTER the bowl payout.

The money Clemson gets from the other ACC will come close to but not totally offset the amount the Tigers lost on the game. You know who will make money from the ACC's bowl games? Duke, Maryland and Boston College, because they didn't make a bowl.

There's no playoff because the schools don't mind losing money on these games, because the alumni donate more when their school makes a bowl game and make up the difference for the school. The majority of schools do lose money or make very little. LSU, for example, is one of the few schools that will likely make money since it is so close to New Orleans, but the Tigers will probably make no more than $100K. Alabama, on the other hand, might lose money on its trip to the crystal game.



Since: Oct 23, 2009
Posted on: December 26, 2011 6:57 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

..."There is really no reason for any adminustration to go ..."
Amen!  Taking senior administrators, senior faculty, and friends of the university to a big party far from home is a scandalous waste of money.  But the colleges all do it.  It's how you get the important people at the university to support your team.




Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2011 6:54 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

@ BigDummyQH , man say stupid things that live with jealousy. Yall should have taken care of Sackerlina or LSU , you controlled your destiny and failed. Clemson is the ACC Champion , and being that the ACC Champion plays in the Orange Bowl then we are exactly where we were supposed to go. Dont say dumb things , it makes you look trite and arrogant.



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2011 6:25 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

OR,.....maybe Clemson doesnt really need to spend $2 million dollars to get the team to a game. Does the entire entourage need to go?

 There is really no reason for any adminustration to go ...im sure the bowl games can just fedex their bribes.



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: December 26, 2011 6:19 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

to hell with the BCS



Since: Dec 26, 2011
Posted on: December 26, 2011 6:07 pm
 

The reason I'm not going is...

I have to work.  Who the heck puts a bowl game on a wednesday.  "Sure I just took a lot of vacation at Christmas.  But I really need to go to a bowl game, boss"  That goes over well.  



Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: December 26, 2011 6:05 pm
 

Orange Bowl to cost Clemson around 180K

Not only are there too many bowls, but the quality of teams that play in the BCS Bowls, other than the Championship game, really has suffered recently.  You have two 3 loss teams playhing in the Orange Bowl.  Does anyone really care about this alleged BCS Game?  You have two 2 loss teams playing in the Cotton Bowl, in a bigger stadium, and in a game that is drawing a lot more attention than the Orange Bowl is.  I am glad that Clemson is losing money, because they do not belong in this Bowl to begin with.  No 3 loss team belongs in a BCS Bowl unless they run out of teams with 2 or fewer losses. 


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