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No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

Posted on: January 10, 2012 1:43 am
Edited on: January 10, 2012 10:44 am
 


Posted by Tom Fornelli

If you had been wondering whether or not the AP Poll would recognize Alabama as this year's national champion or make a statement by keeping LSU ranked at No. 1, well, the answer is right up there for you. 

Alabama is on top with LSU right behind them with Oklahoma State, Oregon and Arkansas rounding out the top five.

Also, what's really interesting about the poll aside from Alabama being on top is that Alabama got every first place vote but five. Of those five ballots that didn't put Alabama at the top, only one listed LSU. The other four had Oklahoma State.

The one voter who kept LSU at the top spot was Erik Gee, from KNML in Albuquerque, N.M.. Gee told CBSSports.com's Dennis Dodd in December that it would take "like a 63-0 pasting" by Alabama for the 39-year old radio host to change his vote after the BCS National Championship Game. He believes LSU won the right to the top spot with their performance prior to Monday's 21-0 loss to Alabama, and his final AP Poll vote reflected his firm stance on the issue.

Check out the final AP Poll of the 2011 season below:

1. Alabama (55)
2. LSU (1)
3. Oklahoma State (4)
4. Oregon
5. Arkansas
6. USC
7. Stanford
8. Boise State
9. South Carolina
10. Wisconsin
11. Michigan State
12. Michigan
13. Baylor
14. TCU
15. Kansas State
16. Oklahoma
17. West Virginia
18. Houston
19. Georgia
20. Southern Miss
21. Virginia Tech
22. Clemson
23. Florida State
24. Nebraska
25. Cincinnati


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Comments

Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:15 am
 

There will be no split title this year

It's amazing that every year we go through the same arguments of who is Numero Uno. Remember OK St  fans that for lack of a field goal Stanford would have been Fiesta Bowl champs. Even with a playoff system it maybe difficult to really determine who is the better team. How many games have you seen when one team dominates another for 59 minutes only to lose on a fluke (outstanding) play? So the winner is now the best team? And those that are screaming for a playoff system - well, just be careful on what you wish for.

Many comparisons are made to the NFL playoffs as an example - so different. First off, usually the home team (not an indepenent bowl site) has the majority of the attendance - except for the Superbowl. No room and board - just the cost of the ticket and some tailgating. I don't know if many of you have been to a bowl game but the cost can be quite expensive (travel, room & board, ticket & parking/commuting, and food & drink). Multiply that by 2 or 3 times. Secondly, the loss of work time and/or school may be prohibited. Finally, bowls are expensive to the teams. Many just break even or even lose money because coaches are often tied to bonuses and the conferences share in the wealth. We all cried about Tats for memorabilia, how about all the gifts the players receive at the Bowl games? With all the money and prestige involved in a playoff system corruption will be hard to keep out. Look at how bad the BCS system has performed over tha last few years.

Hey, it's great to be a fan of your team and state various reason why you beleive your conference or team is the best. It doesn't make it so but nevertheless there will almost always be compelling reasons pro and con - even with a playoff system. Why are we so hung up on who is the "Champion"? Can't we just enjoy good match ups and have a number of elite teams? I, for one, enjoyed the old bowl system. But then again I'm old and maybe time has passed me by. All I know is that New's Day was very special. It has now lost some of it's glamour to the National Championship game that was quite frankly this year, very boring. Sure defense is to be admired but offense is to be enjoyed. And really who is National Champion? The AP says Alabama. Many disagree - and so it goes.



Since: Jan 10, 2012
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:14 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

I cannot disagree that LSU deserved to be in the title game or Bama after thier victory last night.  I do want to answer your questions:

OK State had 3 wins vs. teams that finished in the top 25: Baylor, Oklahoma, and KState. (Texas and Missouri also recieved votes)

OK State had 4 wins vs. teams that were ranked in the top 25 at the time: Texas A&M, Texas, KState, Oklahoma.

Also, you stated that OK State looked as bad the first 3 quarters of the Iowa State game (implied) "as LSU did last night".  OK State lead 24 - 17 after 3 quarters against ISU.

It is unfortunate that OK State doesn't get the chance, but blame it on a loss to an unranked opponent playing their best game ever. Bama showed they belonged, and LSU had the regular season that showed they earned it as well.  Try not to degrade OK State too much as they still had a fantastic season and deserved to be in the top 5 at the end of the year rankings.



Since: Nov 22, 2008
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:14 am
 

There will be no split title this year

How the hell could four ballots have Ok St #1?   BOTH Alabama AND LSU would soundly beat OK. ST...........Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Hmmm...let me see...MAYBE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T DECIDED IT ON THE FIELD!?....  Until that day comes, every year the crowned BCS champion will always be just a paper champion.

How anybody could put Okla state anywhere but #1 either shows their ignorance of football, or the built in bias of the system.
See previous statement.

But to all the OKSt fans...you guys should have lost TWICE!!! Didn't Stanford miss two game winning field goals?? One at the end of the game and one in OT??? Shut the front door. OKSt won by fluke.
Then by this concept, Boise State should be #1 and undefeated, right?...since they lost their only game this season by missing the winning field goal against TCU, and that missed field goal was a fluke?  In the words of CBS Sports/NFL GameDay gurus....Come On Man!
First of all, the SEC is clearly the cream of the crop and the final rankings prove that FACT.
If "FACT" = someone's opinion vote, then yes, you are correct sir.  Oh wait, it is an opinion....
In fact, we do have the fairest system to date with the BCS, like it or not! 
Every team at the beginning of the season KNOWS what it has to do to make it to the Championship game. WIN every game!
"fairest system to date" is debateable.  The system/season is biased before it even starts.  Strength of schedule plays a big role, and that rules out half the conferences up front.  Oh, and the "WIN every game!" system sure does work real well doesn't it?  Tell that to 13-0 Boise State who was voted #8 in the final BCS standings at the end of the 2006 season, behind two 10-2 teams, and never got anywhere near the championship game.
Even a four-team playoff would be better than this. At least then we'd have no doubts.
Not "no doubts" but less doubt.  We're getting warmer folks.

I could go on-and-on about many of these comments surrounding this article, and I didn't even get past the first 4 pages of posts.  At the end of the day, until at least EVERY conference is represented in a playoff system at the end of the year, the true champion will never be known.  In addition, the arguements we all have about it is a moot point as well.

The tragedy surrounding this whole ordeal is either the collegiate community is going to have to dissolve its traditions, i.e. the tie-ins to the Rose Bowl, and create a fair playoff system, or scrap the whole idea, and stop calling the last game of the year the Championship game, when it really isn't.

Too bad money and greed stand in the way of progress.  Sadly and ironically, it's the educational institutions, which are supposed to uphold high standards and values, that won't put what's right, ahead of what is money-making, popular, etc.  They let the media help dictate what to do.



Since: May 21, 2011
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:12 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

It was a hard fought game and Alabama was the superior team in the game. NO doubt the comments of rockingvolunteer are routed in the defeat of the Pittsburgh Steelers by the Denver Broncos.  It's why they play the games!!



Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:12 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

Half of the SEC could beat OSU.
 A ridiculous statement. Until we have a playoff system in place, SEC homers such as you will get to make these kind of ignorant comments.

Alabama's defense is great, perhaps the best we've witnessed in CFB. I would have loved to see them test themselves against a better offense... But they should not have been in this game.

The BCS is badly broken and this year may have finally cemented it's fate.

Congrats to `Bama & the SEC... shame on the BCS



Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:11 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

SC would hang 30 on Bama!



Since: Nov 3, 2009
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:09 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

amen. Gee probably can't even spell football. Does anyone even listen to this idiot?



Since: Dec 19, 2007
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:08 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

That's a fact!



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:01 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

SEC wins the last six national championships. Half of the SEC could beat OSU.



Since: Oct 29, 2009
Posted on: January 10, 2012 10:59 am
 

No split title, Alabama No. 1 in AP Poll

GEE is an idiot, who needs to have his AP voting rights revoked! From one Albuquerquen to another, he is an idiot!



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