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BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

Posted on: January 13, 2012 5:15 pm
Edited on: January 13, 2012 5:19 pm
 
Posted by Bryan Fischer

INDIANAPOLIS -- The move toward a BCS plus-one has been gaining support following a commissioners meeting in New Orleans this week and was given a further shot in the arm with the support of NCAA president Mark Emmert on Thursday.

Still, roadblocks remain among the presidents controlling and ultimately the discussion about college football's postseason.

"I think that our position is we like the way the current system works," Oregon State president Ed Ray said. "The Rose Bowl is pretty damn special so we're pretty protective of that. I'm sure Larry (Scott) hasn't gone into considerations that there is an imperative to change. I understand the public feels that way but I don't. I think the most realistic change, if any, is the plus-one because the structure exists."

Representatives from the 11 BCS conferences met in New Orleans following the national title game to begin the process of re-working the system ahead of negotiations for a new contract that will start with the 2014 season. Although the general consensus amongst presidents and athletic directors at the annual NCAA convention is that there is likely a move to a plus-one with the new deal, there are plenty of skeptics of changing a system that, in their eyes, is working fine.

"I'm still not enamored with expanding the number of BCS games," said Nebraska channcellor Harvey Perlman. "I'm not in favor of a playoff, I have yet to hear a good reason why we would want one. I've spent a lot of time over the last several years as to why a playoff is bad. I'd like to hear one why it would be good and what it would accomplish. The only one I ever hear is that it would give us an undisputed national champion."

Arizona State president Michael Crow told CBSSports.com on Wednesday that he is supportive of an 8-team playoff run by the NCAA. While the position has not been formally proposed, it does appear to be on one extreme of the Spectrum where no two people are on the same page.

"I think (a playoff) would undermine the regular season or add games or undermine the bowls," Perlman said. "We don't need it. We have a regular season that is as much of a playoff as anything that could be constructed artificially. Why would you want it? Football isn't basketball."

"if there is a change, I think it will occur incrementally," Ray added. "The next incremental change would then be to make the plus-one structure to where you have two semifinals and a final. Beyond that I don't know but sometimes you get surprised."

There has been talk that the Cotton Bowl, thanks to Jerry Jones' money and the largess of Cowboys Stadium, would be in play as a fifth BCS bowl come 2014. Perlman doesn't believe that will be the case, with a more likely scenario of the BCS evolving into a #1 vs. #2 matchup and the rest of the bowls reverting back to conference tie-ins. That scenario is one that many think Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany would be supportive of.

"I don't think (Delany) is convinced yet," Perlman said of a plus-one. "We're all in conversations and I think we're going to have a teleconference soon. We'll have to see how it goes."

From the sounds of it, there could be a bumpy road to BCS change.

Comments

Since: Sep 6, 2008
Posted on: January 14, 2012 9:26 pm
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

Ugh, why am I bothering, but...

"the 2010 Official NCAA Record Book states that the and the were selected as national champions by various nationally-syndicated ranking systems for the 1941 season."

Even if Bama (and Texas) didn't want to claim the 1941 NC, the NCAA still does.  Oh well.



Since: Nov 3, 2009
Posted on: January 14, 2012 7:18 pm
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

Ugh, why am I bothering, but...

LSU could "claim" 4 more titles in the pre radio/TV era but we choose not to, because to do so would be ridiculous. These would have been in 1908, 1935, 1936 and 1962.


Does Alabama actually count this one?(Since this is one of the 14 listed on WiKi, I'm gonna have to think yes):

The , coached by Frank Thomas, completed the regular season 8–2–0. Alabama's squad finished 3rd in the .<sup id="cite_ref-89" class="reference"></sup> After losing to and , <sup id="cite_ref-bowl_tradition_86-4" class="reference"></sup> Alabama finished the regular season ranked #20 in the AP Poll.<sup id="cite_ref-90" class="reference"></sup> Alabama was one of 10 teams chosen for post-season competition when they were invited to play in the January 1, 1942 . Coach Thomas' team defeated the Aggies 29–21 to finish the season 9–2–0. The outstanding players of the game were , , and Jimmy Nelson.<sup id="cite_ref-bowl_tradition_86-5" class="reference"></sup> The squad was selected national champions by the Houlgate Poll and published in the nationally syndicated Football Thesaurus.<sup id="cite_ref-2003_media_guide_87-4" class="reference"></sup> The 2009 NCAA Record Book cites the , the , and the Alabama Crimson Tide as the three teams selected as national champions in 1941.<sup id="cite_ref-PastChampions_91-0" class="reference"></sup> described the 1941 Alabama Crimson Tide as the University's best team since the 1934 Championship Team.<sup id="cite_ref-January_4.2C_1942_92-0" class="reference"></sup>


Alabama has plenty of tradition and should be above counting anything this fraudulent as one of their titles. You jumped from #20 to #1 in one game where at least 10 teams ranked above you were not invited to a bowl game?

Not taking anything away from Monday night, it was an @ss whipping no doubt. But to act like you are far and away better when LSU went 1-1 vs Bama with 0 games at home(and your fans made the Dome quite neutral) be my guest.



Since: Nov 3, 2009
Posted on: January 14, 2012 6:53 pm
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

Wow Danbox, way to act like you've been there before and keep it classy. We won one with "your" coach...haha...no, you're now winning with "our" coach. Your wonderful admin wanted RichRod(and he said no, as I recall) as your coach and Saban would be somewhere else now. Get a grip. Congrats and all, but drop the hyperbole.



Since: Nov 3, 2009
Posted on: January 14, 2012 6:46 pm
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

"I'm still not enamored with expanding the number of BCS games," said Nebraska channcellor Harvey Perlman. "I'm not in favor of a playoff, I have yet to hear a good reason why we would want one. I've spent a lot of time over the last several years as to why a playoff is bad. I'd like to hear one why it would be good and what it would accomplish. The only one I ever hear is that it would give us an undisputed national champion."


Harvey Perlman, you are a boob. If we aren't playing these bowl games to determine anything why don't we go back to making these exhibitions and award National Championships on Dec. 6th? While we're at it, why don't we eliminate games 11 and 12 (and Conf Champ Games)from the schedule and let these poor kids focus on their homework?

What I'm interested in seeing is what happenes when they eliminate AQ status. What will the teams that defected to improve their chances at a big payday do? We're gonna have west coast teams in the Big East and for what? The BCS has made a mockery of college football and traditions and yet they see everything as fine and dandy. "Why change it when it's working?" I hear them say. Have you really paid attention to what this is doing to the sport? 



Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: January 14, 2012 6:45 pm
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

With your logic, Notre Dame never gets to play for a NC. Idiot. OK STATE, OREGON and STANFORD had their chance to keep BAMA out of the NC game, but they lost. "LSU is the team of the century" was all that I heard, post 11/5. I heard "Tiger Bait" for five days in NO. However, I saw a BAMA team COMPLETELY DOMINATE and DISMANTLE the "team of the century." LSU players are cheap thugs who got what they deserved. KARMA's a bitch. Lets keep count, BAMA 21, LSU 0. What happened to LSU being the team of the century? BAMA 14 NC, LSU 3(with one won by our coach.) The only people that I hear bitching are sore losers. Get over yourself. The only reason that there is not a"plus one" already, is because the other conferences were scared of the very thing that happened, two SEC teams playing for the championship. Lastly, I don't see how TROPHIES and RINGS are "mythical". Did Oregon win the "mythical" ROSE BOWL championship? Shut up, suck on your passy and when we do get a plus one, the SEC will win that one TOO!!!!!!!!!!  ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  NIck will continue to kick your asses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Since: Oct 20, 2011
Posted on: January 14, 2012 4:16 pm
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

Baloney! Your logic is as flawed as your knowledge of the game. A playoff is the right thing to do but won't happen until these bowl tie ins are eliminated. The thought of teams going anywhere because of the conference they play in is just wrong. Boise had a much better argument than anyone relative to the BCS and got left out because of the size of its fan base. I admire what Coach Hoke and Coach Beamer have done at their schools, but leaving Boise out because of revenue borders fraudulent. The sad thing is, even with a playoff the result will be the same. LSU would have destroyed anyone else, contrast the Arkansas Kansas State game. K State came within a whisker of winning that conference, LSU mauled the razorbacks. Oregon goes if they beat SC, OK State goes if they beat Iowa State, Boise goes if they beat TCU. The SEC is the best, again; but that could change next year. USC has great upside, but there are 4 teams in the SEC that will have to be reckoned with in GA, LSU, ARK and ALA. The best team won the BCS and the AP Chamionship. The AP was under no obligation to award anything to anyone and they awarded their championship to ALA. The votes came in from all across the country. Conspiracy? Please...



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: January 14, 2012 2:17 pm
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

Oops: too many format errors and typos in that last post.  

Anyway, the BCS should immediately go to an eight team playoff with conference champions only.  The only exception could be if an independent finished better than one of the two non-BCS conference winners.  It is the only way to ensure that every game really does count.  It also makes conference championships really mean something, and would encourage teams to schedule tough games out of conference.  

This year, the teams would have been LSU, Ok State, Oregon, Wisconsin, West Virginia, Clemson, TCU, and Southern Miss.  While some of the teams could have been seen as "unworthy," at least it would have been all champions competing for the "National Championship."  Also, a playoff gives conferences the chance to prove whether or not they are worthy.  As for BSU, KSU, Stanford, or Bammer, the response would be the same: if you can't win your conference, you don't deserve to play for a national championship.  Period.

It looks like it will be four games, but even four games is better than the abomination we got this season.  If they had done this with four teams, and required that you be a champion to get in, it would have been LSU, OK State, Oregon, and Wiscy.  The semis would have been LSU/Wiscy and OK St/Oregon.  Four regions of the country would have been represented instead of only one.

I think it is very safe to say that any of the games would have been more entertaining than the joke that was presented as the "BCS Championship Game."


 



Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: January 14, 2012 1:51 pm
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

Bammer didn't deserve to play in a rematch for a "National Championship."  Only conference champions deserve to be one of two or even four teams that plays in a "national" anything.  The first thing the NCAA should do, if they aren't going to have at least eight teams in a playoff, is say that conference champions only are allowed to play for the national championship.  
 
The NCAA says "every game counts," but obviously, none of the games OSU and Stanford played "counted" for anything.  Also, Bammer's loss to LSU didn't "count," either.  The NCAA needs to take their power back from the BCS and the bowls.  The way to do this is to run their own playoff system and tell the bowls they can either be in or out, but that they have absolutely no input about anything.  
As for Bammer: they won a Mythincal "National Championship."  The ratings were incredibly low, and outside of Dixie, there weren't a lot of people watching the game.  
 
Hopefully, the BS Sham-pionship game will be replaced by a true NCAA Division 1 National Championship game soon.  The fans deserve it and the coaches deserve it.  Most of all, the players deserve it. 



Since: Nov 2, 2009
Posted on: January 14, 2012 11:57 am
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

The reason why things never have and never will workout is because the media has too much pull and for the most part, they're no better than most of the regular fans as far as knowledge of the game but because someone pays them for their opinions, they must be better than the rest. My favorite broadcaster by far, Herbstreet, said in an interview "I don't care what the (unbiased) computers say (which had LSU #1 & OSU #2), I feel Alabama is a better team. OSU lost one game, in which now at the end of the seaon, in the BEST conference in the country, on a night game that probably none their athletes got any sleep becuase of the tragic deaths of both the Women's Baketball Head Coach and Asst Head Coach in a plane accident. Most of these guys were probably dating a girl in the womens athletic program. Needless to say in was a brutal 24 hours before the game. What OSU did to Oklahoma on the last game of the year in the toughest conference of the year deserved a shot, PERIOD!! In November, in Tuscaloosa, you can't tell me that both LSU and the Crimson tide didn't know what was at stake, the winner plays for all the marbles and the loser, well at best they finish second in their division! A Sugar Bowl at BEST!!. Because of the media's bias and raging hard on to crown their beloved SEC with their 6th National Championship in a row, superceeded the best interest of the game. And for that OSU had to pay the price and that is a media travesty!!!



Since: Nov 7, 2011
Posted on: January 14, 2012 10:03 am
 

BCS headed toward plus-one, but still roadblocks

I would LOVE to see a plus-one that way ALABAMA could have beat the brakes off of Oregon or OSU and shut all the HATERS up... For those who think one of those teams could have done any better than the #1 team in the nation hopefully you'll get your chance to see just what Alabama and/or the SEC is really made of!  Enough said!!!


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