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Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Posted on: January 18, 2012 11:38 am
Edited on: January 18, 2012 12:41 pm
 
Posted by Chip Patterson

With very little warning, the ACC made one of the most prominent moves in conference realignment in the middle of the 2011 regular season with the addition of Pittsburgh and Syracuse from the Big East. The bylaw-mandated 27-month exit period was thought to be negotiable, but all signs from Big East commissioner John Marinatto indicate that the league will hold all departing members to full withdrawal process.

Following the process outlined in the bylaws would hold off the conference move until the 2014-2015 academic year. While the ACC has made it clear they are prepared to work with the Big East to get Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the league sooner, they have not made any legal efforts to expedite the process. With the release of the ACC regular season schedule coming in early February, it is beginning to look unlikely that either school will be in the ACC for the 2012 season.

"You never say never, but it's unlikely there would be major changes once [the schedule] is set," Mike Finn, ACC associate commissioner in charge of football communications, told The Charlotte Observer.

The SEC and Pac-12 have both released their conference schedules for 2012, and the rest of the major conferences will likely follow suit in the next several weeks. The ACC released the 2011 league schedule on Feb. 14.

While the ACC seems comfortable waiting out the exit period, West Virginia is having a much more difficult time leaving the Big East. Both the school and the conference have filed competing lawsuits regarding West Virginia's plans to join the Big 12, and a Rhode Island judge has ordered both parties to enter non-binding mediation. West Virginia hopes to reach a settlement allowing the school to join the Big 12 in time for the 2012 season, while the league has no plans of making exception to the bylaws. A status conference has been scheduled for Feb. 9, as both parties hope to reach a resolution before the Big East and Big 12 release their conference schedules.

When the Big East releases their schedule for 2012, I would expect to see West Virginia, Pittsburgh, and Syracuse on the slate. If the Big 12 includes West Virginia as well, it could lead to potentially massive headaches for both conferences. It seems as though the ACC is content avoiding the legalities and welcoming their new additions at a later date.

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Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: January 20, 2012 2:59 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

BufordIQ62  Go to cfbdatawarehouse and look at VT schedule through the 80's and 90'S and see for your self what few games they play against the Eastern Independents. And don't come on here and tell me i don't know what i am talking about. You show how ignorant you are when you keep posting that all the schools went in at the same time, hell have i not posted the same!! Ignorant as!!

And were is all of your proof, Try maybe doing a little research instead of pulling crap out of your butt, and maybe come up with a intelligent comment. And as far as your commit about WVU fans, hell we've heard it all before. And when it comes from a non human like you, we don't pay it no mind, we know you can't help it, when you're just plain simple minded ignorant.  

And your commits about VT and the ACC, I COULD CARE LESS!!!!

PS Don't keep making a as!!! of your self without showing some proof with your next commit.



Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: January 20, 2012 11:14 am
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Idl211........I would be ashamed to show how ignorant you are, but I must remember your CULTURE and when you open your mouth it all comes to life.  You don't know what you are talking about who VT played or did not play out of the Eastern schools, blow-hard.  VT also played Syracuse and PITT on occassion before the BE Conference was formed. I know that VT had a lot more schools other than WVU supporting the HOKIES.  WVU was invited to the BE Conference at the very same time VT was invited, dick-head. Futhermore VT told the powers that be in the BIG EAST,that if VT was ever invited to the ACC they would go to that conference.  This is documented and any AD or College President in the BE at that time, plus Mike Tranghese the BIG EAST Commissioner will verify this to be correct and factual.  In fact, that is a reason the BIG EAST did not sue VT when they announced they were leaving for the ACC in 2004, but sued BC and Miami. Futhermore, your AD Oliver Luck was on his "high horse"  last September telling the BIG EAST Commissioner to hold PITT & SYRACUSE feet to the fire for the 27 month rule.  Then in November Luck was suing the BIG EAST to go to the BIGXII in eight months.  Again, I guess you guys are a bunch of misfits, with a chip on your shoulders, but again that's the neer's Culture ! I'm sure a lot of eastern schools will be glad to see you guys go to the BIGXII as quickly as possible, and show your rearends to that part of the country. 



Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: January 20, 2012 9:24 am
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

BufordIQ62 Since i know that you are a idiot when it comes to Big East history here is a couple of facts about VT.

VT was a independent before they join the Big East, but they were never consider as one of the Eastern Independent schools and before they join the Big East their schedule mostly included southern schools. The only eastern independent school they played regularly in the 80s and 90s was WVU. They never played more than a couple of the eastern schools in a season. VT had no close ties at all with the eastern schools except for WVU.

When the Big East decided to add football, am not to sure about a vote being taken for a invite. The way i remember it, was that it was the Big East and all the football schools came to a mutual agreement of the Eastern Independents schools to join as a football conference. And with VT not consider a Eastern Independent they did need a little pull from someone to get in. And rather you like it or not, WVU officials did speak up for VT. I not saying without WVU they would had not gotten in, but they did need some pull to get in.

And also they were rejected in 1994 or 1995 to join in B-Ball and was not accepted as a full member until i believe was 2000. 
Now you go pull a article out of some archive records and prove me wrong. And don't make some lamebrain comment that came from your butt like all your other commits.

You know in 20 years i would bet you that even some of us WVU fans will forget that it took Texas to stand up and say that the Big 12 decided on WVU and that they needed to stay with their choice instead of going with Louisville. If Texas would have change their mine about WVU and wanted Louisville like Oklahoma did. WVU would have never got the invite to the Big 12. 



Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: January 20, 2012 12:48 am
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Buford you have been blowing crap out of your rearend every time you post. You think because you make a post everybody else is wrong. Were is your facts smart butt. If you were smart enough to read you would see that in my last comment i said that all the schools of the eastern Independents join together. Miami was the last to get a invite. And yes it was in the news and the papers that Ed Pastilong had spoken for VT. And if you don't like it go crap some more lamebrain commits out of your dumbas!!!. As for WVU going to the ACC they never ask, it was reported that it was a indirect request from another source. Which was probably ESPN. And i have posted on CBS many times that i for one never wanted to see WVU go to the ACC. The SEC yes the ACC Hell No. As for  U-Conn and Rutgers, you couldn't even imagine with that tiny lamebrain of yours how little i care about what U-Conn, Rutgers, ACC will do in the future.








Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: January 20, 2012 12:03 am
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Idl211....... you don't know what you are talking about, saying WVU helped Virginia Tech get in the BIG EAST Football Conference.  No Ed Pastilong, WVU's AD nor your President had a vote at that time, because VT, WVU, RUTGERS, and TEMPLE were ALL admitted to the BE Conference at the very same time.  Why don't you try blowing smoke up someone else's rearend that may believe you.  Furthermore, had the ACC invited WVU to become a new conference member this past September, all you Neers fans would have been thrilled to death.  You may see UCONN and RUTGERS invited to the ACC sometime, but you won't see WVU invited because of fans like you with a CHIP on your shoulders.  I hope WVU gets to the BIGXII as quickly as possible, so all the other BIGXII schools can get their belly's full of you misfits. 



Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: January 19, 2012 9:44 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Stuckidiot4 once again you prove that you are a idiot. And you have no idea what you are commenting about. So i guess now you are saying it took 1 more vote for WVU to get in. What a crook of bull crap. You act like there was a Big East football conference before WVU join. There was no Big East football until 1991 when most of the Eastern Independents join up. I'm don't remember reading any article talking about a vote was taken to get in. Maybe when WVU join in B-Ball there may had been a vote to get in. As bad as Pitt was in the late 80's and early mid 90's it might just be that it was WVU that help to get Pitt into the Big East in football.And sure being in a conference help WVU's program but it sure in the hell wasn't Pitt that had anything to do with.

And lets get the facts straight about Penn St. Penn St. applied for membership in 1982 for B-Ball and was denied. And by 1991 they already knew they were going to the Big 10, and joined the Big 10 in 1993 and wanted no part of the Big East. Penn St. move to the Big 10 was what really got the Big East Football going forward. And all the eastern independents was a mutual agreement to join in football.

And for you're information i have been a college football fan for 40 plus years. And your ignorant grammar is worst than mine.
   



Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: January 19, 2012 5:27 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Idl21l,  You are an absolute moron and your poor grammar and improper math show it clearly.  Show me any article from 1991 that will prove any point.  You are obviously too young to know what you are talking about.  Pitt completely supported WVU coming in to the Big East.  To get in, you need a 75% vote to be approved.  Ask PSU, they were denied by one vote.  But, WVU was accepted and it was a good thing for the Big East and WVU.  Your programs got a lot better after having joined.  That is indisputable.  So did Pitt's.  That is the power of a good conference.  Or at least one that used to be.

JoMtneer.  I am not going to respond to your comments about lying about what I said that trying to start an argument.  I think it is great that you are dedicated to your team.  You should be.  My only point all along is that before you continue to trash Pittsburgh fans, you need to look at your own fan base for all of there fallacies.  You only come on here to fight and that is simply the act of an immature person.  But, if that is what you need to do to make yourself feel better, then go ahead.  I just think that it is pretty pathetic.
 
Both of you need to move on and grow up.  Nowhere in my posts did I trash WVU, except to recite facts, and no where did I tell anyone to pull anything out of there "big fat butt".  Your posts were very entertaining to me.  I forgot what it was like before my brain was fully formed.



Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: January 19, 2012 4:20 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Hey stuckidiot4 Again you're commits of Pitt being the reason WVU got into the Big East is making me laugh even more. Pitt wouldn't have enough pull to bring any team into the Big East. Pitt was in a slump and was no better than a 3-8 or 4-7 team in the early and Mid Nineties in football and was below 500% in B-Ball. Try pulling a article out of your big fat Pitt butt that shows Pitt is the reason WVU is in the Big East. The only true fact about another team pulling for and helping a team to get in the Big East was WVU getting Vir. Tech into the Conference. They were being left out. WVU's AD was the one who help with getting them in.  




Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: January 19, 2012 4:20 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I am not wasting my time with someone like you anymore.  Your posts only prove my point that you are an immature moron who wants to do nothing but put people down in these forums.  Typical WVU fan.  If you can't see that the word 'riot' is used over and over again in the articles that I showed you, which you asked for, then you obviously aren't paying attention.  You have rose colored glasses on when it comes to your WVU, just like the PSU faithful had for Sandusky and Paterno.  It is a shame.  I am man enough to say when my teams are not doing good, and I am not the one lowering this conversation to grade school levels with your sPitt comments.  I would expect nothing less from you.  

And for your information, Pitt joined the Big East in 1982.  Football started in 1991, which is when WVU joined.  But, WVU wasn't even a full member until 1995.  If you want to call me out on something, look up the facts first.  And yes, Pitt was part of the reason WVU was invited in to the Big East.  They already had a successful rivalry and Pitt lobbied to get them in.   

I am still stunned that you stand up for people that light couches on fire, turn over cars and start first in celebration and when they don't get there own way.  To me, that speaks volumes for your childish mentality.  The fact is that WVU has embarrassed there university, teams and fan base on many occasions.  Again, an inarguable fact, not an opinion.


Sure I bet you're done, you won't be able to leave it alone I bet and will respond yet again with more of your gibberish.  I hope you are done.  I've destroyed your arguments more than once.  You work Google pretty good there with your fact finding, find something that shows sPitt lobbied for anything for WVU.  Just because you say something is a fact doesn't make it so.  I've been watching WVU play sPitt since the Southern Conference days so you don't have to try to explain to me the relationship of WVU and sPitt and the rivalry, or the history of the Big East and it's membership.  I never once posted "support" of idiot fans who over celebrate, you obviously skimmed over my comments on that in my post.  I was saying there is a difference between a "riot" and some overzealous fans who get stupid and burn stuff.  You seem to ignore the other part of my post where I described sPitt fan behavior, Steelers fan and Pens fan behavior - there's some dummies but I don't think all Steelers, Pens or even sPitt fans (all 25 of them) act that way. And you ignored the valid point I made that many fanbases have a contingent of people who don't know how to control themselves.  You're incapable of categorizing and entire fanbase because of a few bad apples apparently.

As for being a "WVU punchdrinker", I support WVU come hell or highwater, just like I suspect any good fan of any team would and should do.  I never said we're National Champion contenders every year, but the pathetic disrespect WVU gets is bullcrap and I'll call anyone on it.  You don't like that, you can kiss my Mountaineer ass.

      
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Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: January 19, 2012 4:11 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I hope WVU gets out of the Big Least early.  So that (1) the Big 12 solidifies itself with some decent programs and (2) so that JoMtnr guy realizes that WVU is a good program but not great and it will be getting defiled regularly by Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State.  WVU is now looking at a lot of 7-5 or 8-4 seasons.   Hopefully now all the idiot WVU punchdrinkers will go away.



When was the last time Oklahoma "defiled" WVU?  Texas, what have they done lately to make them world beaters.  Maybe you cower in fear and awe to these programs but we do not.  Respect all. Fear none.  It's what we live by out here in the hills.  We'll play anyone, anywhere.    


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