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Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Posted on: January 18, 2012 11:38 am
Edited on: January 18, 2012 12:41 pm
Posted by Chip Patterson

With very little warning, the ACC made one of the most prominent moves in conference realignment in the middle of the 2011 regular season with the addition of Pittsburgh and Syracuse from the Big East. The bylaw-mandated 27-month exit period was thought to be negotiable, but all signs from Big East commissioner John Marinatto indicate that the league will hold all departing members to full withdrawal process.

Following the process outlined in the bylaws would hold off the conference move until the 2014-2015 academic year. While the ACC has made it clear they are prepared to work with the Big East to get Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the league sooner, they have not made any legal efforts to expedite the process. With the release of the ACC regular season schedule coming in early February, it is beginning to look unlikely that either school will be in the ACC for the 2012 season.

"You never say never, but it's unlikely there would be major changes once [the schedule] is set," Mike Finn, ACC associate commissioner in charge of football communications, told The Charlotte Observer.

The SEC and Pac-12 have both released their conference schedules for 2012, and the rest of the major conferences will likely follow suit in the next several weeks. The ACC released the 2011 league schedule on Feb. 14.

While the ACC seems comfortable waiting out the exit period, West Virginia is having a much more difficult time leaving the Big East. Both the school and the conference have filed competing lawsuits regarding West Virginia's plans to join the Big 12, and a Rhode Island judge has ordered both parties to enter non-binding mediation. West Virginia hopes to reach a settlement allowing the school to join the Big 12 in time for the 2012 season, while the league has no plans of making exception to the bylaws. A status conference has been scheduled for Feb. 9, as both parties hope to reach a resolution before the Big East and Big 12 release their conference schedules.

When the Big East releases their schedule for 2012, I would expect to see West Virginia, Pittsburgh, and Syracuse on the slate. If the Big 12 includes West Virginia as well, it could lead to potentially massive headaches for both conferences. It seems as though the ACC is content avoiding the legalities and welcoming their new additions at a later date.

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Since: Jan 19, 2012
Posted on: January 19, 2012 9:39 am

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Not sure if anyone has brought this up or not....but why is it ok for the Big East to hold Pitt, Syracuse and West Virginia to their 27 month rule, but expect the teams the robbed from C-USA and the MWC to play in 2012? Isn't there a double standard going on here? Just because those conferences may not have a clause doesn't give the Big East the right to expect them in when they can't release the 3 teams who want to leave...maybe by caving it will open up a can or worms down the road. The Big East is only embarrassing itself, by holding on to its schools that don't want to be a relationship gone bad, one partner wants out but the other one just can't come to terms with it.  Thats whats great about the MAC, no one "raids" it and few teams come and go...Marshall & UCF joined just to get their programs on track, and there isn't anything wrong with that, the MAC knows its not a caliber conference, but it always has 2 or 3 teams that scare the big for the Big East....its a never has been never will be conference and now its created a Big Mess

Since: Dec 1, 2008
Posted on: January 19, 2012 9:21 am

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

JoMtneer, Where in any of my posts did I say that WVU sucked?  I am not an immature child that comes on here only to put people down.  My point was if you want to continue to bash Pittsburgh teams, you need to look at the facts of the successes of the teams to put it in perspective.  Yes, WVU is better than they used to be, however, as I stated before, it is because of teams like Pitt that worked to get them in to the Big East and make the Big East competitive.  Your recruiting has gotten much easier than it used to be over the years because of our affiliation with the Big East. 

How do you not call burning furniture in the street and overturning cars a riot?  Your fans are not used to being in the big time and when you are, win or lose, your fans don't know how to handle it.  Again, that is a fact.

Here are some links to riots in Morgantown that you say don't exist.  It took me all of five seconds to find them.

Oh, and here is my favorite about your fans classless acts against the Pitt basketball team.

Your are correct that our teams suck right now, but every team has there ups and downs.  And, it has been proven time and time again that Pitt fans have way more class than WVU fans.  You are certainly proving that on these boards.

Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: January 19, 2012 9:03 am

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I made a comment last night and said wvu is going to play Fla.State.That comment is wrong,they are NOT GOING TO PLAY FLA.STATE NEXT YEAR,SORRY FOR THE CONFUSHION.It will only cost WVU 500,000 to get out of the game.But my whole reasoning was that Fla.State would never come to Morgantown the Next year.Oliver just one uped them,thats all.And Again Screw THE ACC.THEM AND ESPN STARTED THIS CONFERENCE BUSTING UP BACK IN 1995.Oliver made the Statement this Summer that the Cuse hasn't done anything is football for over 20 years,then The Cuse Beat WV on ESPN,and then ESPN Midget Sean MaCdon't know anything about Football,and a Cuse Grad. said Oliver was Stupid.Well the Cuse Never won another game the rest of the year.So cuse Football hasn't done anything in 21 years now.There a Great Fit for THE ATLANTIC CHOKE CONFERENCE.

Since: Feb 20, 2008
Posted on: January 19, 2012 8:23 am

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I'm a Seton Hall guy and it sucks that they are all leaving...Having said that I don't begrudge them the right to go but like anything else they have an existing contract that they helped when that deal is over they're welcome to go wherever they'd like.....they just have to suck it up and hang out one more year.  These universities are like 5 year old kids.....they want to get what they want regardless of consequences and if there are consequences their parents (lawyers) will fight tooth and nail to get them out of it.....this is ridiculous to me.....Pitt, cuse, wva.....see ya next football season in the big east

Since: Sep 7, 2010
Posted on: January 19, 2012 12:07 am

BE football and basketball

I understand BE fans want the best for it. But I agree the root of the BE's problems is not handling FB vs. BB schools. Depaul, St John's, Seton Hall, Villanova etc., are traditionally religious basketball schools. They have little in common with Syracuse, WVA, Rutgers, Conn, or Pittsburgh. They belong in a basketball conference, like the Atlantic 10, or Horizon. Football is driving the boat.
At least the BE is trying. Stretching a football conference from Connecticut to San Diego,  with detours to South FLA and Boise, Idaho, is going to be fascinating, like watching Frankenstein get off the table and try to walk!

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: January 19, 2012 12:02 am

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

 The FSU game could very likely be another college gameday game and will be a chance to make a statement at the beginning of the season. Worst case scenario is they lose, but a loss to a top 10 team won't drop them out of the top 20 I'm guessing. 
Why on earth would FSU be a top 10 team at the start of next year?  What in their performance this year made them look like a top 10 team?  They were GIVEN top 5 last year that was ludicrous--and I said it from the start--because Manuel is NOT a good QB (he was lousy subbing for Ponder) and the only thing that they really had going for them was defense.  The WVU team that destroyed Clemson is returning much of their team I believe and should handily beat a possible top 25 FSU team--no higher than 15, I'd expect.

Since: Sep 7, 2010
Posted on: January 18, 2012 11:54 pm

No sympathy for Big East

I don't want to hear about how the Big East is the victim here. The Big East brought this on themselves by putting so much emphasis on a 16-team Bball league that football kind of got neglected, And where did that 16 team Bball group come from?  Poaching!The Big East has been poaching football teams at every opportunity. They tried TCU until TCU made like their 4th conference change in 20 years or so, to the Big 12 (10? 11?). Now they are taking SD State from the WAC,  Boise St from the MWC, and SMU and Houston from the CUSA. And they would like to get Air Force, too.
The Big 12 (10? 11?) is trying to portray A&M and Missouri as traitors, but a few months ago TX and OK were ready to Go Hollyweed with the PAC 12 until they got bitch-slapped by Lindsay Lohan and the UCLA cheerleaders!
This is the new college football in the new America. Contracts are pretty much flexible now. NFL contracts get renegotiated. Big Banks have broken so many mortgage contracts they had to hire  21 year old kids to sign foreclosure notices all day.  Credit card , cell phone and cable TV companies change terms whenever they want to, and have a conniption fit because there might be a new agency to look out for the consumer.
Am I mixing economics, sports, and politics?  Yes, because that's the only way to understand what's happening!

Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: January 18, 2012 11:40 pm

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

The Big East was founded in 1979!! thanks for the input...hero!! that would be more than thirty years

Since: Mar 23, 2009
Posted on: January 18, 2012 10:53 pm

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

The other just gets bitter and starts making trouble for the one trying to move on? 

I understand your analogy, but this is more legally binding than a marriage. WVU, Pitt, and Cuse all signed a contract saying they would abide by the Big East bylaws. The Big East is the one in the right where the schools are in the wrong, especially WVU. They whined about about a contract being kept a few years ago, which they were in the right and that idiot loser coach was in the wrong. I guess WVU is just going to take the place of TAMI in being the whiney little brat for the Big 12.

Since: Oct 12, 2011
Posted on: January 18, 2012 10:27 pm

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Zaub - The 2012 FSU game is in Tallahassee, not Morgantown.  The JMU game was scheduled to be a home game but was moved to FedEX field.  If they drop the Marshall game they would only have 5 home games next year.  That's why they want to drop FSU, they need the revenue generated from home games.

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