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Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Posted on: January 18, 2012 11:38 am
Edited on: January 18, 2012 12:41 pm
 
Posted by Chip Patterson

With very little warning, the ACC made one of the most prominent moves in conference realignment in the middle of the 2011 regular season with the addition of Pittsburgh and Syracuse from the Big East. The bylaw-mandated 27-month exit period was thought to be negotiable, but all signs from Big East commissioner John Marinatto indicate that the league will hold all departing members to full withdrawal process.

Following the process outlined in the bylaws would hold off the conference move until the 2014-2015 academic year. While the ACC has made it clear they are prepared to work with the Big East to get Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the league sooner, they have not made any legal efforts to expedite the process. With the release of the ACC regular season schedule coming in early February, it is beginning to look unlikely that either school will be in the ACC for the 2012 season.

"You never say never, but it's unlikely there would be major changes once [the schedule] is set," Mike Finn, ACC associate commissioner in charge of football communications, told The Charlotte Observer.

The SEC and Pac-12 have both released their conference schedules for 2012, and the rest of the major conferences will likely follow suit in the next several weeks. The ACC released the 2011 league schedule on Feb. 14.

While the ACC seems comfortable waiting out the exit period, West Virginia is having a much more difficult time leaving the Big East. Both the school and the conference have filed competing lawsuits regarding West Virginia's plans to join the Big 12, and a Rhode Island judge has ordered both parties to enter non-binding mediation. West Virginia hopes to reach a settlement allowing the school to join the Big 12 in time for the 2012 season, while the league has no plans of making exception to the bylaws. A status conference has been scheduled for Feb. 9, as both parties hope to reach a resolution before the Big East and Big 12 release their conference schedules.

When the Big East releases their schedule for 2012, I would expect to see West Virginia, Pittsburgh, and Syracuse on the slate. If the Big 12 includes West Virginia as well, it could lead to potentially massive headaches for both conferences. It seems as though the ACC is content avoiding the legalities and welcoming their new additions at a later date.

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Comments

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: January 18, 2012 10:04 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I do think WVU dropping the FSU game would be a mistake.  If they have to drop one, drop Marshall.  The FSU game could very likely be another college gameday game and will be a chance to make a statement at the beginning of the season. Worst case scenario is they lose, but a loss to a top 10 team won't drop them out of the top 20 I'm guessing.  

As for the conference shuffling.  Obviously WVU intends to be in the B12 regardless what Marionette thinks.  The BE will retain its AQ bid, schools have had since October to find another opponent, and the money from the BCS game/bowl games will be divided among fewer members.  So the price that WVU will have to pay certainly can't be too large and be seen as reasonable and fair by the courts.   



Since: Oct 26, 2011
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:55 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I was at the WV Marshall basketball game tonight,which WV won.But i talked a little football with THE WVU POWERS THAT BE.WE are for sure going to play Fla.State Next year.I have told them for Months THE ACC OR BETTER KNOWEN AS THE ATANTIC CHOKE CONFERENCE,ONLY LIKES WVU WHEN THEY CAN USE THEM.EXCEPT FOR THE ORANGE BOWL.SCREW THE ACC.



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:38 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Years ago - before Miami, BC, and VT left for the ACC...Miami complained to the BE Commissioner about the issue of football vs non-football schools in the BE.  Nothing was done.

After those 3 schools left for the ACC, there was an extended discussion by the remaining BE schools.  They agreed that the remaining football playing schools would eventually leave.  Some thought these football playing schools should form a new conference but could not use the name "Big East".

This option was explored, but it was learned if these schools formed a new conference, the new conference would not be allowed to have the Big East's AQ for BCS games.  What would a BE without any schools playing football need a AQ for in the BCS?

So the football playing schools stayed in the Big East.

The Big East then considered merging with Conference USA.  Instead, several C-USA schools were invited to join the BE as replacements for the schools that left for the ACC.

After years of the "big wheels" in the BE accomplishing nothing.....more football playing schools decided to leave.  Can anyone really blame them?

Then the BE's "big wheels" finally solicit other schools to join but also says the existing schools who want to leave "may not leave unless they meet the BE's demands".  

Doesn't this sound like a couple getting a divorce?  One of them moves on with their life and starts dating again.  The other just gets bitter and starts making trouble for the one trying to move on?  

I have enoyed the BE ever since my team joined.  And eventually my wife switched from being an ACC fan to preferring BE games.  We know the BE coaches, players, histories, rivalities, etc.  We both hate to see the BE change the way it is going now.  But just like a divorce....it comes to a point in time you just have to get over it and move on and get on with life.  The sooner you do this, the better it is for everyone involved.

Just because WVU moves to the Big12 doesn't mean there will not be a OOC game with Pitt.  Or that 'Cuse will not have a OOC basketball game against UConn.  
  




Since: Oct 12, 2011
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:23 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Connecticut and Rutgers badly want to go too.
True but BC will fight tooth and nail to keep UConn out of the ACC.  It's a major reason they went to the ACC in the first place.  It as a huge mistake for BC to go to the ACC.


As for the point about WVU having to travel in the Big-12.  Take a look at who the BE is adding.  Boise, SDST, Air Force, Houston.  WVU's not the only one who will be traveling a lot of miles, the remaining BE schools will be too.  The BIG difference is WVU will be doing it in a more respected, stronger conference with more national exposure.  What's even better is the Big-12 TV deal pays out nearly triple what the BE does and could be even better once the Big-12 Network gets up and running.  Just as important, the Big-12 has a much better bowl lineup than the BE, so even though it will be tougher making the BCS, WVU has a decent shot at making the Cotton and Alamo Bowls on a regular basis.
  




Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:12 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

FACT: WVU fans are well known as a fanbase that will travel and travel well to watch their team. 

Unlike sPitt, who drew what 15,000 people to their Compass Bowl (25 of whom were actual sPitt fans?).


Someone brought up the Syracuse WVU football score.  Yep, they got us on a bad night and whipped our asses.  So what?  Cuse final record was____  and ____ there smart guy, and their bowl game was.......??    



Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: January 18, 2012 9:06 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Yankee 1..........What about WVU fans having to travel all over the BIGXII in football, basketball and all-sports ?  WVU needs to lease 4 Cargo planes to haul their teams around their new conference, plus get a deal with JetBlue to haul their fans.  PITT and SYRACUSE will travel fine in the ACC !



Since: Nov 26, 2008
Posted on: January 18, 2012 8:39 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

The ACC is acting prudently. Perhaps WVU will manage to enter into a reasonable settlement agreement with the Big East. If not, its AD will look foolish.



Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: January 18, 2012 8:23 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

If West Virginia wants to leave, let them leave! I can't wait to welcome the Mountaineers into the Big 12. They've actually got successful athletic programs there in Morgantown, which is more than can be said for the Mistake that they'll be replacing.



Since: Dec 23, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2012 8:07 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

well...the defending national champion will be in the Big East for another year...too bad for the Big East,.... They may be gone soon after the Cuse leaves...



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: January 18, 2012 8:04 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I forget - what bowl did Syracuse go to this year?  Oh yeah...... THEY DIDN"T.Cool



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