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Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Posted on: January 18, 2012 11:38 am
Edited on: January 18, 2012 12:41 pm
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Posted by Chip Patterson

With very little warning, the ACC made one of the most prominent moves in conference realignment in the middle of the 2011 regular season with the addition of Pittsburgh and Syracuse from the Big East. The bylaw-mandated 27-month exit period was thought to be negotiable, but all signs from Big East commissioner John Marinatto indicate that the league will hold all departing members to full withdrawal process.

Following the process outlined in the bylaws would hold off the conference move until the 2014-2015 academic year. While the ACC has made it clear they are prepared to work with the Big East to get Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the league sooner, they have not made any legal efforts to expedite the process. With the release of the ACC regular season schedule coming in early February, it is beginning to look unlikely that either school will be in the ACC for the 2012 season.

"You never say never, but it's unlikely there would be major changes once [the schedule] is set," Mike Finn, ACC associate commissioner in charge of football communications, told The Charlotte Observer.

The SEC and Pac-12 have both released their conference schedules for 2012, and the rest of the major conferences will likely follow suit in the next several weeks. The ACC released the 2011 league schedule on Feb. 14.

While the ACC seems comfortable waiting out the exit period, West Virginia is having a much more difficult time leaving the Big East. Both the school and the conference have filed competing lawsuits regarding West Virginia's plans to join the Big 12, and a Rhode Island judge has ordered both parties to enter non-binding mediation. West Virginia hopes to reach a settlement allowing the school to join the Big 12 in time for the 2012 season, while the league has no plans of making exception to the bylaws. A status conference has been scheduled for Feb. 9, as both parties hope to reach a resolution before the Big East and Big 12 release their conference schedules.

When the Big East releases their schedule for 2012, I would expect to see West Virginia, Pittsburgh, and Syracuse on the slate. If the Big 12 includes West Virginia as well, it could lead to potentially massive headaches for both conferences. It seems as though the ACC is content avoiding the legalities and welcoming their new additions at a later date.

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Since: Oct 12, 2011
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:24 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Zaber you obviously don't know Jack about WVU sports.  The mens basketball team has won the NIT, been to the Final Four, and several sweet sixteens in the last decade.  The women's basketball team is nearly as good.  The wrestling team is very well respected nationally,  the women's soccer team kicks a$$, and the rifle team is pencilled in as national champs at the start of every season.  Men's basketball has a particularly rich tradion at WVU  with Jerry West, aka the silhouette on the NBA logo, being the most famous and noteworthy player.

The way I read this article the basic message is WVU and the Big-12 have balls as big as church bells, and the ACC, including it's future members, are nothing but a bunch of putty-tats. 



Since: Jan 25, 2008
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:21 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I guess going to the Elite 8 in 2005, Sweet 16 in 2008, and Big East Champions and a Final four appearance in 2010 doesn't show enough to some people out there.



Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:17 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Okay.. stop being a moron.

A.  Boise State had two wins over big time schools in BCS games - did that make the WAC a football conference?  No.  WVU is a good football school - the Big East as a whole, not so much for at least the last 10 years.

B.  The lawsuit was ordered to NON-BINDING mediation, which means the judge said "pretty please, try and work it out".  It has no legal basis for enforcement.

C.  Did you note which college I went to?  Syracuse.  Part of the Big East.  I know what I'm talking about - Ive been watching Big East football and basketball for 30 years. 

D.  The Big East and Big XII haven't released their schedules yet because the Big East normally doesnt release them til February, and the Big XII is holding out hope for a deal. 

How about those facts, genius?


You butthurt there bro?  Boise State gets a lot of praise and rankings for running up the scores in the WAC yet the standard doesn't apply to WVU? Tell me the WAC is a tougher conference than the Big East? Tell me, please. To your point B) If both schools agree to the non binding agreement and go to the judge and say "we have an agreement, guess what 'genius', it's a done deal.  Now point C) Glad you went to Syracuse, that means what to me? A fine journalism school they have there, I hear.  I've been watching the Big East basketball and football 33 years, whoop whoop I guess I'm smarter than you? 

Wow, some people just don't know when to admit when their argument is trashed with facts.  



Since: Nov 27, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:17 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Big East does not have a consistent Top 25-30 football program in the conference.  ACC has VA Tech, GA Tech, FSU & Clemson.
REALLY?  Geogia Tech?  Clemson?  I would have said Florida State 5-10 years back...but they are just beginning to be ranked again.  Clemson was good  THIS YEAR.  Show me that those schools have been in the top the past several years and I'll agree.



Since: Aug 27, 2008
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:14 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I guess WVU doesn't play basketball decently?  Final Four isn't "decent"?  What other sports matter again?
 



Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:13 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Works for me if the ACC waits.  No need to get caught up in those types of squabbles.  Plus, who knows, by the time Pitt and Syracuse are able to come in, the ACC could have added a couple more teams.  I'm more concerned about how the ACC will redo the Atlantic and Coastal divisions than I am of when Pitt and Cuse will come in.



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:12 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

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Since: Nov 27, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:12 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

I'm sorry, but losing Pitt and Syracuse in football is not a big deal.  It is a bigger loss to basketball.  The move to the ACC for football is a lateral one at best.  While not in great danger of losing their BCS status, I really don't think ACC football that much better than Big East football.  West Virginia's move is more troubling to the Big East.



Since: Aug 20, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2012 3:05 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Funny how the "Big Least" talk continues even thos the ACC continues to have and has always had the WORST BCS record among the AQ's.  Some of you are just stupid and let your hate bias dictate your posts.  Dummies.


I think someone's bitter because the only sport WVU plays decently is football and they aren't getting respected enough... Awww.....



Since: Aug 20, 2007
Posted on: January 18, 2012 2:55 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse not likely on 2012 ACC schedule

Another "real smart guy" post.  It IS a football conference, with AQ status, with BCS wins over the SEC, BXII and ACC Champions.  Two of them blowout wins.  The lawsuit was just ordered to mediation.  If they mediate an agreement, WVU is out, pays some money and plays BXII schedule in '12.  That's a far cry from "no way West Virginia gets to leave early".  If things are so certain, why haven't the BE and BXII released there schedules since it's a "done deal" as you put it.

You should stop pretending you know everything.  Whine all you want, facts are stubborn things..


Okay.. stop being a moron.

A.  Boise State had two wins over big time schools in BCS games - did that make the WAC a football conference?  No.  WVU is a good football school - the Big East as a whole, not so much for at least the last 10 years.

B.  The lawsuit was ordered to NON-BINDING mediation, which means the judge said "pretty please, try and work it out".  It has no legal basis for enforcement.

C.  Did you note which college I went to?  Syracuse.  Part of the Big East.  I know what I'm talking about - Ive been watching Big East football and basketball for 30 years.  

D.  The Big East and Big XII haven't released their schedules yet because the Big East normally doesnt release them til February, and the Big XII is holding out hope for a deal.  

How about those facts, genius? 


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