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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Comments

Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 9:04 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Crybabies.  Get used to the domination (again).  Meet the new boss --same as the old boss.  17-18 yr old kids change their minds all the time--just look at yesterdays  recruits for Stanford, Washington, Oregon, several SEC schools ,Texas and didnt Notre Dame get the #1 QB who changed his mine THREE TIMES??  Tress is gone --so whatever agreement that was in effect NO longer applies.   Bilema your program is a mess--losing half of your staff and OC.  Face it any hope the rest of the B1G had of being consistently relevant DIED when Meyer was hired.   YOU know it...  WE know it.... and the rest of college football will found out soon l....



Since: Feb 25, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:56 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Has Meyer done anything illegal? The answer to that question is No. In the SEC recruiting isn't a gentlemen's game and that's where Meyer came from. Given that Meyer hasn't broken any rules the coaches who are doing the whining better step up their game or be run over. Last summer in the wake of Tressel being forced out Ohio State was reeling and Michigan and MSU among others were taking full advantage of the situation and raiding the state of Ohio for top talent. That was a factor in Michigan's excellent class this year. After a difficult season Ohio State went out and landed Urban Meyer. The party is over now. Under Meyer Ohio State figures to be at least as dominant as they were under Tressel, when they won 7 Big Ten titles in 10 years.



Since: Dec 8, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:44 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Amazing that the only coaches complaining are the one's who were in line to be the toast of the Big Ten til Meyer came along. I don't doubt Meyer has cut some shady deals in the past because more coaches break the rules than we're aware. However, it was extremely obvious that recruits were going to flock to Columbus as soon as they signed Meyer.



Since: Oct 28, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:42 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Why come out in pubilc and say ANYTHING?  NOTHING illegal was done.  Both of these guys are talking about some "gentlemen's agreement" they had with Tressel.  Safe to say Urban is not honoring that.  And please ask BOTH of these coaches how they "ethically" recruited Dodson and Pittman, with the uncertainty around tOSU's program, by pointing that out to them over and over.  Two guys that were STONE COLD LOCKS to tOSU before JT's resignation was given. 

Like Urban said.  When he got the job, most kids were committed so he called guys and said are you interested in tOSU?  If they said no, he moved on.  This is the big leagues.  NOTHING illegal was even approached.  Calling a kid that was an absolute lock a year ago to see if having a Coach in place would make a difference? 

The Big 10 is in BIG trouble vs. tOSU and Coach Meyer.  Welcome to the 21st Century. If nothing else, Urban will up the bar in the Big 10.  Hopefully the BIG will attract some better coaching.  Hoke seems to be a legit, solid, hire.


osubucki1
Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:42 pm
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Since: Jan 6, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I wasn't aware that Toledo ever won anything. Have they even won their own conference?



Since: Feb 2, 2012
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:32 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Wow 93 you are just full of hate aren't ya . Are you a Michigan fan ? So he snaked recruits from the competition . The rules are nothing final until the letter of intent is signed so what is the big deal ? As long as he didn't cheat I say go get em coach !! I look forward to more Buckeye domination .


osubucki1
Since: Jan 22, 2012
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:30 pm
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Since: Feb 2, 2012
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:26 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Gentlemen, the bottom line is, the kids that de-committed from Wisconsin, Michigan State, Notre Dame, PSU etc. were obviously never truly committed to those schools.  My guess is most of them were thinking about Ohio State, but were scared to commit until they understood who the coach would be and what the NCAA sanctions would amount to.  Once this was understood, they found it easy to move away from their "safety" schools and commit to the school they really wanted to go to.  Incidentally, I suspect all of the above mentioned schools have signed players that earlier in the recruiting year had committed elsewhere.  Unfortunately that's life in big time college football.



Since: Sep 30, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 8:25 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

unprecedented cheating
Please explain. Players used their celebrity...sold items that were given to them...and a coach lied and lost his job. Please tell me you are not so naive to think OSU is the only campus where athletes are treated more special. The only laws that were broken at OSU were NCAA laws. Should there still be consequences for that? Yes. And I think the approrpiate action was taken. But do not act like this was an isolated incident in Columbus, OH. You are a good writer and seem to be fairly logical...so I'm giving you credit for being smarter than this. There is something VERY wrong with college sports, but that does't mean I'm not proud of the accomplishments of The Ohio State football team over the past decade. I'm also very disappointed in the way things have been handled internally over the past year, too. I'm a fan and I am calling for higher accountability in Columbus AND in the rest of the country. I don't think the biggest issues in sports are the ones that were discovered at OSU.


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