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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:24 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer


There is no offical commitment until it's on paper.  i think you are mostly concerned with winning.  whcih is fine.  your talk of honoring committment comes across as self serving and half baked.   if you truly care about the morality of commitment, perhaps look in over hauling the recruiting process entirely.   why should kids even be expected to make a "verbal."   dodson verballed to wisky b/c beleiman sold him on the program and pressured him to do so.  same thing meyer did.   change the rules if you want, but dont single out meyer b/c as the rules are now he didn't break any.  a program doesnt own this kids.  you seem to have an entitlement attitude.  kid made a verbal, so therefore we are entitled to see him suit up for the badgers.  no. your are not.  you don't own him, and he is allowed to change his mind. 

Since: May 1, 2010
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:21 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Everything he did was legit. Just hope he doesn't bring other SEC tactics like overrecruiting, then deciding who you really want. Then tell the "extra's" to pay their own way or join someone elses team..

Since: Dec 20, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:21 pm

Lessons learned from the SEC . . duh!

Look around, Big Ten folks . . there's a new (recruiting) 'sheriff' in town.
  Some would call it the 'survival of the fittest and finest' . . Throw all the 'Mr. Nice Guy' tactics out the proverbial window of intent.  Now one, at least here in Europe, might understand why Mr. Meyer took some time off . . gut-check?  Building new energy to take on the dilemma that faced him at OSU? 
   Well, it appears he is well rested and willing to take on all comers in the Big Ten, no matter the price.j  Visions of the SEC?  Do or die?  Champions no matter what the cost?  Example: Take a gander at the wining of LSU's Les Miles over the loss of Kiel and 4-5 others. Damn, he should be accustomed to it by now.
   Meyer is sure to be successful at Ohio State . . and the rest of the Big Ten must ready themselves for all that he has learned while his tenure at the SEC!

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:17 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Bielema is a whiner-cry baby apparently in all aspects of coaching.  He's certainly that way on the sidelines during a game and now he's that way during recruiting.  Explain to me the difference between Meyer/Ohio State coming after Kyle Dodson after he committed to Wisconsin and Bielema/Wisconsin coming after Levon Myers after he commited to Northern Illinois?

Wait, don't tell me because I already know.  There is no difference!  Duh!  A commitment is a commitment and when you go after committed players how can you possible complain about another coach doing exactly the same thing?  Wait, don't tell me because I already know.  You can't complain unless you are a little whiner!    All coaches/schools behave this way.  Recruiting is fair game Bret!  Get over yourself and your Badger program!

Side note:  Kudos to Levon Myers for sticking to his commitment to Northern Illinois.  On the pther hand, maybe Wisconsin is better off without a player who really wants to be a Buckeye?

Since: Oct 13, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:16 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Do you really think Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio would go public about Meyer if there wasn't some rule violations? AH, but how silly of me, since Ohio State has always been known for their stringent rule compliance.

What possibly could Ohio State offer WITHIN THE RULES that would suddenly compell these recruits to leave schools like Michigan State, Wisconsin and Notre Dame? So, in a few years, Meyer will be 'in trouble' having been paid millions while Ohio State has made kazillions - right according to plan. Pay a few bucks to the NCAA, say how very sorry you are, retire, er, I mean fire those who pulled it off. Time and time and time again.

Since: Feb 2, 2012
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:15 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

right, agreements are for cowards and and commitments are worthless.  nice philosophy and great justification of meyer's vulture recruiting. 

Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:14 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer


When Meyer does leave OSU, he most certainly won't be heading to ND.  That turd of a program is beyond repair.  Why don't you
pop the 1989 WVU-ND Fiesta Bowl game into the Beta?.  You can revel in that magical time when  the Irish were actually relevant.

Since: Jan 11, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:14 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

there's nothing wrong with "hard" recruiting prior to any letter of intent being signed. the real question is: was there anything
illegal offered as an inducement to switch allegiances? if that can be proven, then press charges...otherwise, it's all posturing

Since: May 19, 2010
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:12 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

It's not our fault our new coach does an excellent job recruiting...GO BUCKEYES!!!

Since: Nov 14, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 7:09 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

If you have to tell everyone it's's not!  BIG ten football will not compete for a national title outside of OSU for awhile.  Meyer will teach them a thing or two about REAL football.  It may take all of the dinosaurs of the BIG ten admins to die off and new blood to come in or maybe the alumni wiil get tired of OSU kicking their butts every year, but eventually they will come around to dropping their arrogance about how "great" BIG ten football is.  Also, don't complain about the SEC's ethics as long as Penn State is part of your conference.

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