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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Comments

Since: Mar 6, 2010
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:35 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

HA! I'll call my shot right now. Ohio State won't lose more than 1 game next season, if any at all. Wisconsin will probably "win" the Leaders division with about a 8-4 record, and will play a Michigan team that will have at least 2 losses going into the B1G Championship Game. The game will be an absolute joke and be totally meaningless, as both Wisconsin and Michigan will lose to Ohio State by at least 2 TDs, but Ohio State won't be bowling next season, so next season will be Michigan's chance at a 2nd straight BCS Bowl, where they will get murdered by either USC or Oregon in the Rose Bowl. The B1G next year is gonna suck so bad without Ohio State in the bowls that it will only have 1 BCS team in Michigan, a team that Ohio State is gonna brutalize next November. Jim Delany will be on the phone b!tching out the NCAA for making the B1G look like a total laughingstock by having 2 POS teams in the conference title game. Book it!



Since: Sep 28, 2009
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:32 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

yeah and i wished he would of left LSU to come to the dolphins oh wait he did and left in middle of the night all college coaches are scumbags and liers looking for the next best payout



Since: Jan 13, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:27 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

For one ....I'm sure their Parents had some say to which program their Child was going toattend,2....Michigan has done the same,3.....a famous Man was quoted a saying "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing"...many say this Man is the greatest coach ever....Meyer wants to win and to win you have to have the best players and coaches.4.....Coach Bielema has irked many a coach by running up the score on lesser oppents so he has no room talking about a gentlemans agreement.



Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:27 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
I was talking to that guy first.  You need to stay away from him...  

They sound like high school girls.. 



Since: Jun 30, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:26 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

hahaha...you scUM fans are cute...1 win in the past 8 years, and only when it's at home, against a team w/o their coach and qb, with a true freshman starting against you, and you want to talk....Look, I wanna see you guys actually relevent again, it's good for the Big Ten and it makes beating you seem impressive again-which we all know it wasn't for 7 years. Too bad your boy Shoelace has no ability to throw, hasnt improved at all since his freshman year, and will be forced to play on the road this year in the Shoe. With two 5 star DE's chasing him around. It should be very fun to watch for the Bucks' fans....Oh by the way, you're not "back". You needed miracles and a bogus review to beat a crappy VTech team in the Sugar Bowl. it's OHIO STATE by the way....you won't be calling us "OHIO" ( which in itself is quite lame and again, cute that you guys are trying new things) after Nov 24th ........



Since: Sep 4, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:25 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

yeah but who then beaaaatch the last 10 yrs  OH-IO



Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:25 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

did not a coach at wisky just grab a student athletes' junk?   and their fans want to lecture rival coaches on ethics.  just too rich even for my tastes.




Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:25 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer


@oosterbaan1989

Why are you on this thread with your schools you would accuse of cheating? I see
Nothing that the coach did was wrong. Perhaps the other coaches should have been doing their jobs and been at their potential recruits place or  have an assistant coach in contact with them.

I see nothing about cheating in what he did. He might have been sharper and smarter in the fact he had good intelligence that these players might be turned from their current commitment and would be acceptable to listening to another coach.

If you would want a gentleman’s agreement that once a recruit commits to a college then all others would be hands off that might be ok, however, I don’t think the Big-10 has such a gentleman’s  agreement.

The other coaches got out smarted and were ambushed, now they want to cry like little babies in diapers. If you want to play with the big boys, you have to wear long pants, shorts an diapers are not the proper attire.

Had they been able to attract a couple of Ohio State players to their program would they tell the Ohio State commits, naw you are committed to Ohio State, we can not talk to you, good luck at Ohio State? We all know the answer to that question.
 
Cheating means doing something that is illegal. You are a potential recruit until signing day and you place your name on the school acceptance that you would want to attend.

There are rules for changing your mind after you sign to attend one school and you decide to attend another. You must sit our one year. There are extenuating circumstances, but all the coaches and schools know the rules.

Did not Kiel change his mind and commit to Notre Dame after committing to LSU. Oh before he committed to LSU he committed to another school.

 
“ONE MAN’S OPINION”  





Since: Mar 6, 2010
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:25 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

"Best coach in college football bar none is Saban...conversation starts and ends there."

Your whole post was ridiculous, but that part there took the cake. You go on a whole diatribe about Urban Meyer being a scumbag, and then hold the scumbag of scumbags up as the best coach? He who lied to the Miami Dolphins (documented fact) when it got too tough for him. The same Saban that routinely over-signs recruits by 5 or more every year, something that Meyer never did? If Saban were such a great coach, he would have won at Michigan State. But, he didn't. He left there because he couldn't win in a conference where the playing field is actually level (no over-signing). Then went to the SEC, where he over-signed his way to a false split title in 2004 with LSU. Left there for more money in Miami, and epically failed. He went back to Alabama, the king of over-signing, and voila! He's a winner again. Meyer won 2 titles out of the SEC without over-signing. Those are the only ones I recognize as legitimate. All the others are the result of cheating recruiting rules. 



Since: Dec 30, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:24 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Anyone want to know why the Big Ten is terrible??  Yep.  becuase they think you have to be a gentleman in recruiting.  What a joke.  I hate Ohio State, but they are going to own the Big Ten forever until Meyer decides he needs to spend time with his family or has health issues again.  


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