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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Comments

Since: Jul 9, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:23 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Meyer did this all the time while at Florida!



Since: Nov 8, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:21 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Ohio state will be on probation again in 3 years

To hell with the BUCK EYES .... ON WISCONSIN !!!!






Since: Nov 8, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:19 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I'm glad coach Bielema stepped up and called him out, good for MSU as well.




Since: Feb 2, 2012
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:16 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

As soon as you're finished lavishing priase on your hero Meyer, refresh your feeble memory on the definition of commitment; wihch I posted below since it's doubltful you know how to use a dictionary.   Yes, very honorable for a 50 year old influential quitter to encourage and teach impressionable teenagers that breaking your word is alright.   That's why the B10 coaches had a gentlemen's agreement in this respect.  That's also one of the reasons the SEC sits miles below the B10 in academic stature.  These recruits probably had no idea OSU would be banned from a bowl their first year.  No doubt Meyer told them this was extermely unlikely.  He's really making a lot of friends in the B10.  THis will come back to haunt him.   He'll have two below average seasons and quit again.  Breaking your word and quitting:  two excellent qualities to teach.  Dirtbag.  Keep you slimy, obtuse tactics out of the B10. 

Definition of COMMITMENT

an agreement or pledge to do something in the future; especially : an engagement to assume an obligation at a future date b : something pledged c : the state or an instance of being obligated or emotionally commitment to a cause>




Since: Dec 1, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:13 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

The question is: are the coaches upset with the STYLE of Myers recruiting or with the ETHICS of his recruiting. This article comingles the two. Style is style. It may be more aggressive than the other coaches in the Big Ten are use to having to deal with and upseting, but within the rules. To that, one says either change the rules or tough. Ethics is saying untrue things about another university, harrassing a persepective player after he has committed to another program, or lying to a recruit saying that once he has commits to you that you will not recruit other players that play the same position as the committed recruit. Lack of ethics is dispicable and often breaks the NCAA rules. So, what we got here STYLE or ETHICS? This is unclear making this a poorly written article backed up with no facts.



Since: May 23, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:13 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Lane Kiffin was right!



Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:11 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

The rest of the Big Ten was spoiled under the Senator. He wouldn't poach your commits.

Well a new Sheriff is in town and he's the best recruiter in the nation. So now you combine the firepower of the Ohio State brand with the recruiting guru that is Meyer and you now have a Monster the Big Ten has never seen before. It's about to get UGLY. Real UGLY. Meyer won't take his foot off the gas when he has a 28 point lead like Tressel would. Get ready to get blown out by large margins. No more Mr Nice Guy. You drove him and his sweater vest out of town with your witch hunt.

An old proverb says careful what you wish for. The entire Big Ten thought the Tat 5 scandal which forced Tressel out would end the reign of terror the Scarlet and Gray have put on the conference in the last decade. I'm sure Coach Nickelback Bilema thought this was his opening to take control of the conference. (Bad Judgement!!)

Only now do they realize the folly of their ways. The cries from Madison and East Lansing are understandable. Both those men's jobs just got exponentially tougher and could result in not having jobs in 5 years when the recent successes become distant memories clouded by 56-7 mudstoppings in the Horseshoe.




Since: Aug 7, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:10 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I would like to hear the details to this story." Unethical" is pretty strong language. I think he did more than just talk the recruits into changing their commitment. Ol Urbs sounds like he might play dirty, which by the way, is fine with me. Thats recruiting.



Since: Apr 22, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:09 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

everyone knows Meyer is as complete a$$hole.
why bitch about it in the media.



Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 6:09 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I live in Florida...surrounded by Gator fans.  I told them for years Urban Cryer was a true scumbag.  Think Tressel was bad??  Cryer makes him look like a Saint.  Florida players were arrested non stop and Cryer never did anything.  He's a joke.  I am an ND fan...and for the record, I hate Brian Kelly.  He's an a-hole too, so it's not like I'm upset Meyer never came to ND.  Meyer is not a great coach.  He was the beneficiary in his first year of a great team recruited by Ron Zook and the beneficiary of the greatest college football player ever....uggh  that pains me to say that.  After Tebow was gone, he quit on his team and proved that he can't tweak his offense or have any control over his team.  In fact, I'd say that without Tebow, they never sniff either Championship.  Dude is a scumbag and will never win a NC at OSU...Never never never.  Best coach in college football bar none is Saban...conversation starts and ends there.  Saban would outcoach Meyer any day, all day, every day.  Bama probably wins at least 3 of the next 5 NC's.  I'd love to see him leave Bama and come to ND.   Will never happen, but I can dream.


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