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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
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Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Since: Jul 17, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:30 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

What should we expect, an SEC coach with morals?  Look we know why the SEC wins, the let ANYONE into their schools and they also are "dirty" recruiters.  Lets see how the BIG10 deals with him.



tipinmy40
Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:29 pm
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Since: Jul 28, 2009
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:29 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Quit crying everyone

1. What right does Bielema have to pressure kids into a verbal committment and pretend that that is a document?   A verbal is about as worthy as the paper it is written - wait, it isnt even written.   Let the kids use the full period to explore their options.

2. Quit talking about ethics.   this isnt junior attorneys of ameria club or the united nations.   college football is competitive so why fake that it is not?   look at the conference thas 6 straight champions.   a recruit is fair game until the letter of intent is signed.   Do you want to be a conf. of champions or a conference of "gentlemen."   if champions, then you should be applauding Meyer for instilling some aggresiveness into the league.  it needs it!   get off your wussy, prissy little high horses.


3. develop you own high school talent.   the kids that flipped from wisky and msu are from frickin ohio.   your best recruits oftentimes are from ohio.  if you dont want to compete against osu head to head for recruits find somewhere else to recruit!!!!   duh.     &
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Since: Jan 3, 2009
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:29 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Hey Tip. Is that what you usually do when you can't think of an adult thing to say? Call everybody else babies? Wow am I convinced now! I mean, I don't want to be a baby! There are a lot of people who don't live in Michigan who think that ethics have a place in the college experience. What babies!



Since: Jan 18, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:29 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

if brett bielema knew how to coach, he'sd have back to back rose bowl wins and the recruit he lost out on.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:28 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

If the NCAA really wanted to stop this practice, they would take a scholarship away for the succeeding year from the offending team and give it to the team that was "wronged".
First, you'd actually have to make a rule against whay Meyer apparently did.  A verbal committment is not binding (if it was there would be no point in having a national signing day and written letters of intent) and there is no NCAA rule that prevents a school from recruiting a player who has verbally committed to another school....other coaches might not like it, but recruiting these players like Meyer did is perfectly legal (and, in my opinion, completely ethical).



Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:24 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

so what you are saying is cheat or lose?  go back to the sec (sure everybody cheats).  tressel was more ethical than meyer is.  in the long run he will be bad for the big ten.   


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Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:24 pm
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Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:22 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Actually, it still can happen in the SEC.  The new rule just limits SEC teams to 100 recruits over a 4 year period, which can still easily go over the limit of scholarships available.  I would like to see the NCAA institute a rule similar to the B1G rule which allows you to sign 3 players over the amount of scholarships available to cover you for transfers, injuries, etc.

ex.  If a school from the B1G has 16 guys leave school that year due to graduation, nfl draft, injuries, etc.  they are only allowed to sign 19 players in that years recruiting class.  An SEC school in the same situation can still sign 25 players which would put them at 9 guys over the amount of scholarships available.  This is still oversigning!
So what are the rules in the other conferences? I saw quite a few schools with over 25 signed and only a few were from the SEC.



Since: Jan 3, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:22 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

If the NCAA really wanted to stop this practice, they would take a scholarship away for the succeeding year from the offending team and give it to the team that was "wronged". But you know they won't do anything about it, being the weenies that they are.


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