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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Since: Aug 10, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:05 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Why does anyone listen to Urban Meyer?  He's only coached one recruiting class through to graduation so the numbers say he's likely to quit on these kids too.  Plus many of these kids want to play in the NFL and Meyer hasn't shown he can help kids with that - just look at UF's NFL prospects from those top-5 recruiting classes 4-5 years ago. 

Since: Nov 9, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:03 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

He is probably luring them away with the same stuff Tressel did that got him canned. Why else would someone want to spend 4 years in Columbus Ohio?

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 5:02 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

You know that these coaches all try to get  the kids to sign the LOI when they have their visits. The ethics of getting a signed LOI prior to the the kids having been on all of their visits is equal to, or worse than Meyer getting kids after they sign their LOI with another school. You can't lock up a kid early in recruiting with an LOI, knowing they have interest in other universities, and then squawk about it when they get pulled away.  No coach can reasonbly expect that a kid who signs an LOI in November may not have second thoughts or even change his mind by February. If you're really worried about the kid, and not just your program you shouldn't pressure the kid to make a choice before he is ready.

All you Michigan fans screaming about cheating just sound like a scared rival that's afraid of what's coming your way. Your RichRod era isn't far enough behind you to start pointing fingers and yelling about cheating. I have nothing but respect for the Wolverines, and you have some pretty cool fans. But those of you that like to make up things and blow other things out of proportion to justify a bad attitude are lousy fans.

Since: May 15, 2009
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:59 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

I guess they're bitching about there "committed" recruit bolting for another college.  I could see how they would be pissed about that.  If you're looking at two OL and they both commit to you and you don't recruit anymore and they bolt, yeah I'd be pissed too.  Unfortunately, you have to look out for number 1.  Ethics goes out the window in the world of sports.

Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:57 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

funny how they cry about it when it happens to them but just this week Michigan did the same thing to the UC Bearcats with one of our RB's....hmmm interesting

Since: Feb 14, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:57 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Do you want some cheese with all tha hoo hoo. 

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:55 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

What else is new I watched him pull the same garbage at the University of Utah. The Mountain West Conference had warned him a couple times. Urban Meyer took his horse and pony show on to Florida. But there the SEC just did not care their coaches do these kind of things all the time. But Mike Dantonio has no right to complain he has done the very same thing at Michigan State. This is the pot calling the kettle black. The two coaches who have a legitimate complaint Bill O'Brien and Brian Kelly of Penn State and Notre Dame.

Since: May 1, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:55 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

So I guess you can say that oversigning happens everywhere, its just that in certain conferences there is a hard limit based on scholarships available, not an arbitrary number picked from thin air.

Since: May 1, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:54 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Still waiting for one journalist from espn or CBS to discuss the immorality into Oversigning in sec.
Welcome to 2012 ... why would they write about something that can't happen any more due to a new SEC rule?
Actually, it still can happen in the SEC.  The new rule just limits SEC teams to 100 recruits over a 4 year period, which can still easily go over the limit of scholarships available.  I would like to see the NCAA institute a rule similar to the B1G rule which allows you to sign 3 players over the amount of scholarships available to cover you for transfers, injuries, etc.

ex.  If a school from the B1G has 16 guys leave school that year due to graduation, nfl draft, injuries, etc.  they are only allowed to sign 19 players in that years recruiting class.  An SEC school in the same situation can still sign 25 players which would put them at 9 guys over the amount of scholarships available.  This is still oversigning!

Since: Nov 12, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:53 pm

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

a verbal is nothing more than a kid stating where he wants to go to school the day he verbaled...many things change over days and months that follow. the player signed nothing!! he merely stated where he thought he would go to school...that and 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee....come on brett and up!! chances are you won't be playing in the title game of conference this year or many more in future!!!

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