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Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Posted on: February 2, 2012 3:31 pm
Edited on: February 2, 2012 8:36 pm
 
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It appears that the grace period for new coaches in the Big Ten lasts for 65 days or only one National Signing Day. That's how long it took for fellow Big Ten coaches to publicly speak about being upset with new Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer.

Not surprisingly, the complaints from Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio are related to Meyer's recruiting tactics. Particularly the part where he just shows up, swoops in and then causes recruits to suddenly change their minds and flock to Columbus.

“There are a few things that happened early on that I made people aware of that I didn’t want to see in this league, that I had seen take place in other leagues,” said Bielema on Wednesday. “Other recruiting tactics, other recruiting practices that are illegal. 

“I was very up front and was very pointed to the fact, actually reached out to Coach Meyer and shared my thoughts and concerns with him. The situation got rectified.”

Michigan State's Mark Dantonio was a bit more to the point.

"(Ohio State has) a new coach, and it's different," Dantonio told the Detroit News. "I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end." 

It seems that Bielema and Dantonio aren't used to the recruiting tactics Meyer has brought along from his days in the SEC, where the gentlemanly rules of the Big Ten do not exist. It seems SEC coaches know that no commitment means anything until a letter of intent is signed, so the race for any recruit they might want doesn't end before February.

Question the morality of it all you want, but you'll notice the SEC has won the last six national championships while the Big Ten has been rather uninspiring.

Meyer's first class at Ohio State was good enough to finish ranked third in the CBS Sports National Signing Day Top 25. In that class of 24, 10 of the commits didn't come on board until after Meyer became head coach at Ohio State. Of those 10 players, eight had previously given commitments to other school.

Including offensive lineman Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State). Hence the reactions of Bielema and Dantonio. Still, of the other six, four had been committed to Penn State and two to Notre Dame. You don't hear Bill O'Brien or Brian Kelly crying foul about it today.

Not that complaining will do anything to deter Meyer. He's a head coach that realizes in order to build a successful program, not only do you need to have a good coaching staff, but you have to have good players. Players that are found through recruiting.

So whine about how he does all you want, he's seen the fruits of his efforts and has a couple rings to show for it. Nothing anybody can say will change that.

Other Big Ten coaches can either get on board, or run the risk of being left behind.

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Comments

Since: Sep 13, 2011
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:26 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

 It is a simple as the "Learned Hand" formula taught to every first year law student:  if the gains from cheating outweigh the penalties from getting caught, then you must cheat.
They teach you to cheat in Law School and why does this not surprise me in the least?



Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:24 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

oosterbaan...look at the Mighty Men of Blew piping up...what a shock you're crying foul!  I seem to remember Rich Rod exceeding practice time regulations...and yet you STILL couldn't win...so relax on the slime comments and ethics philibuster!  I hope Big Blew enjoyed their one year of fun against OSU.  I wonder if "Shoelace" (learn how to tie a friggin shoe...and throw a pass more than 10 yards for that matter) will be doing his "eating" celebration again next year, because if he is, the dish will likely be Crow.   




Since: Nov 11, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:24 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Aaahhh. Oversigning in sec is reason sec has done well. It's not allowed in big 10. Alabama has signed 82 players in 3 years. Do the math people. NCAA needs to wake up. Meyer will soon realize he doesn't have the relaxed rules of the sec.



Since: Feb 2, 2012
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:22 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

It worked both ways. OSU's verbal commitments were getting recruited by other schools, despite the commitment.    Bri'onte Dunn went to 2 Michigan games this year.  That is just how recruiting is now.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:21 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Meyer has had success everywhere he has gone and there is a reason for that.  He was accused by Lane Kiffin for recruiting violations and those turned out to be false so don't condemn the man based on some sour grapes over lost recruits.
 Haha Meyer and several others accused Kiffin of the same thing. It just boils down to him being the new guy in the conference doing things differently than they are accustomes to. Once they know what to expect, they will get over it.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:19 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

the SEC, Meyer, USC and OSU have shown the road to success:  Cheat or lose.
Since you some how know something no media or officials do, please enlighten us on all this "cheating".



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:18 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

Come on, this is silly, let's get an early LOI date in November and be good.  Until then Meyer is just going to do what is best for him and OSU...that's fair.  Iowa lost Curry to NE after Rick K moved over to make more money under Pelini, they lost Darboh to Michigan, etc.  They just nutted up and went after other kids.  Bottom line is if these recruits are that easily swayed by another coach, then they weren't serious about going to school A or B anyway. 

Iowa and Michigan are still waiting on Kozan to make up his mind and I am sure both are still calling, texting, tweeting, whatever to influence him.  It's the game. 

Key is all these kids are right now are potential, it's up to them to make it to the starting lineup and prove that potential through their execution on the field.  Lots of teams get tons of 5 stars and they stink while others get kids who fit the program, that is the most important for any coach.

Now I just gotta hope Iowa's kids will live to their potential, keep their noses clean (esp the RB's) and stop losing to stupid teams like Iowa State and Minnesota.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:17 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

OSU alums, fresh off paying players and buying them cars to attend "school"
 How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you make stuff up. All of those things were alleged and found to be untrue or could not be substantiated.



Since: Jan 5, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:17 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

So the lesson here is that you should do anything to win and ethics counts for nothing. 

No the lesson is that "ethics" all depends on your point of view....


Barry Bonds, Ben Johnson, John Calipari, Rosie Ruiz, Tonya Harding...all should be celebrated for doing whatever it takes to win in their own way, right?

So let us all in on the secret......which of these, that you chose to be your examples,  didn't break any rules or laws?








Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: February 2, 2012 4:15 pm
 

Big Ten head coaches already upset with Meyer

So it is cheating because he does his job? That is his job right... to get players to go to his school? Or did I miss some secret that Ol' Wiscy knows?


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