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Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Posted on: February 3, 2012 10:33 am
Edited on: February 3, 2012 3:28 pm
Posted by Tom Fornelli

It seems Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer heard the complaints from fellow Big Ten coaches Bret Bielema and Mark Dantonio about his recruiting tactics on Thursday, and not surprisingly, he doesn't care.

According to Buckeye fansite the OZone, Meyer fired back while at the Ohio High School coaches clinic on Friday morning.

"You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? Guess what, we got 9 guys who better go do it again," said Meyer. "Do it a little harder next time."

Meyer also released a statement on Friday afternoon.

“I was pleased to take part in a productive, regularly scheduled meeting of the Big Ten Conference coaches today in Chicago," said Meyers in the release. "We had an opportunity to discuss a number of issues with each other and conference staff, including those that have arisen this week. It should be noted that my coaching staff is in full compliance with our recruiting efforts, and no one on this staff did anything illegal or unethical. We will continue to comply with NCAA rules and recruit with relentless effort, especially the great state of Ohio.
“I want to thank Commissioner Delany for his insight and leadership, and at this point we all look forward to moving past this week and getting ready for the start of spring football.”

This all started when Wisconsin's Bret Bielema and Michigan State's Mark Dantonio publicly criticized Meyer's recruiting tactics. Of the ten players that committed to Ohio State after Meyer became head coach, eight had previously committed to other schools. That includes offensive tackle Kyle Dodson (Wisconsin) and defensive end Se'Von Pittman (Michigan State).

Bielema also said on Thursday night that Wisconsin athletic director Barry Alvarez was going to be talking to Jim Delany about Meyer's recruiting tactics. All because of a supposed "gentleman's agreement" -- an agreement that even Alvarez himself denied exists on Friday -- within the Big Ten that says coaches aren't supposed to go after another coach's commits while recruiting.

Which wasn't the way Meyer, or any coach, did things in the SEC, and it doesn't look like Urban is willing to adapt.

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Since: Feb 3, 2012
Posted on: February 3, 2012 3:07 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Nobody could possibly be this dumb. tOSU issues four year scholarships, not one year renewables. No kid currently on scholarship will be kicked off the team unless it's for behavior issues. Any kid who enrolls early to be ready for spring ball is counted against last years scholarship total. You also have kids who see that they may never get significant playing time and transfer (i.e. Jamaal Berry). In all likelihood tOSU will sign a couple more and STILL be under the scholarship limit: Stefon Diggs and Davonte Neal ring any bells? How do people just spew these comments out without checking your facts?

Since: Sep 25, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 3:03 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

It is just unbelievable that people continue to get on here and call this "cheating" I would love for someone to point this out to me in the rule book where it says it is cheating. I am not a fan of Ohio State but i will defend them on this. I know that it sucks to have a recruit taken away from you at the last minute but life goes on. The reason these teams are good is because they do go the extra mile and refuse to lose. So don't slam him guys and call him out for cheating because while everybody is crying about this he is building a team that is gonna kick the Big 10's arses quicker than ya think!!

Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 3:02 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Uncommitted means uncommitted. Unless a letter of intent was previously signed, these coaches have no beef. Zero. As Alvarez said, "it's open season". All these kids are allowed to shop for the best deal they can get. If you can't compete in that scenario, or chose not to, then don't whine when you lose a propect.  

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:57 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Until a kid signs a letter of intent.  They are fair game.  To bad, so sad for Wisconsin and Michigan State.  You got used and abused by Urban.  he's there to win, not make friends with the other schools in the Big Ten.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:57 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Your comments are disjointed and contradictory.  This would suggest that you may be a product of an SEC education.  But, probably not.  The interesting thing about most SEC fans is that they never attended the universities they thump their chests about. 

As far as Meyer's methods go -- recruiting is competition, so no recruit is off limits until he's signed.  No problem there.

With regard to the recruiting practices of Saban and many other SEC coaches -- offering a number of scholarships that exceeds the number available to give, only to withdraw scholarships from existing roster members is despicably low.  And a 67% graduation rate, which is a decade high for Bama, shows where the university's priorities really lie.  Success without honor.

Since: Sep 25, 2008
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:57 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

ogrelxxv, There is absolutely nothing wrong with going after a recruit that has verbally commited to another school no matter what school it is. Kids change their mind and they might have commited to Urban in the first place had they known he would be the new coach there. You said " I'd rather win with dignity than win by cheating ". Do you really think that is cheating? There is no rule against it. The guy is doing what he has to in order to give him the best chance of winning. Can you blame him when it is obvious these days that you win or you don't have a job long? And everybody sits back and wonders why the SEC is so dominant. They put alot more into it and are way more passionate about the game of football down here!  ROLL TIDE ROLL !!!!!!

Since: Sep 30, 2011
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:52 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

I am an Ohio State hater, and even I can say that Meyer did nothing wrong.  As with anything, until it is in writing it is not a done deal.  This happens in business all the time; someone gives you a verbal commitment to do business with you and then signs with your competitor at the last minute.  Does it sting?  Yes, but as grown ups we move on to the next prospective deal.  These other coaches should be concerned the recruits they have signed and start working on preparing for the season, not whinning because a kid signed elsewhere. 
Don't even get me started on Les Miles, he is the biggest baby of them all......"waa, waa, one of my verbal commits backed out, he is a liar and a loser, I don't want to play with him any more"......I've seen more evolved communication among 2 year olds in the sandbox discussing use of toys.

Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:47 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Hey Urban, what goes around, comes around.  If I was the rest of the Big10, next year would be an unrelenting, unified assault on Ohio State's recruits.  And I would have thought that Ohio State would have had enough shennanigans with Tressel, and then they go hook up Urban to kick it up another notch.  The NCAA has a real cop on the beat now.  Good Luck Buck Eyes with your CONTINUED CHEATING.

Since: Dec 24, 2011
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:45 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

This debate goes the same way every time.  Fans of the SEC will always fall back on the "we're winners and you're losers" argument, while Big Ten fans stand by the "I'd rather lose with dignity than win by cheating" stance.  The Big Ten has made a decision to hold itself to a higher standard of behavior and as a result has cost its schools victories.   Meanwhile the SEC is happy to get down and dirty if it means they can claim more titles.  It's simply a matter of what is more important to you, and these two conferences have clearly stated their cases.  Personally, as a parent, I would rather my kids learn to play with a bit of dignity and class rather than selling their soul for the sake of a trophy.

Since: Feb 3, 2012
Posted on: February 3, 2012 2:39 pm

Urban Meyer responds to fellow coaches' criticism

Dude are you serious? Honestly? Your as dumb as everyone else. Your probably from the SEC and are probably mad we got Urban at Ohio State. Ohio state sold key word sold their own another key word own stuff. It was 5 players. Your right the NCAA did mess up, we should've gotten even less of a punishment. We're not Penn State out raping kids! Get over your selves.

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